Advice for those trading titles

[yvette]

I can sympathise fully but can also see it from both sides. I'm definitely a 'newbie' and was recently able to track down a deleted title from one of your members. This was purely for personal use (a Christmas present for my mother actually) and I was very grateful to the member who supplied it. My point is...not all 'newbies' are baddies...some of us are really genuine. However, I still appreciate the difficulties involved, and I agree with some sort of 'name and shame' and think the postcode/street name would be a great place to start.

[Wolfgang]

I would be against publishing someone's address even if they did screw me over - if people start posting up each others' addresses we will all end up being raided! I think if you trade in illegal contraband you have to just accept not all trades will go smoothly - let's be honest here, you are dealing exclusively with hardened criminals.

[Geronimo]

And then there's the member who said he had a copy of a programme, traded for information for a book and then, when I had honoured my side of the bargain, clearly didn't have the copy or simply stopped responding. He has been excluded now but who's to know if he hasn't rejoined under a different ID?

[Steve Crook]

Originally Posted by Geronimo And then there's the member who said he had a copy of a programme, traded for information for a book and then, when I had honoured my side of the bargain, clearly didn't have the copy or simply stopped responding. He has been excluded now but who's to know if he hasn't rejoined under a different ID?

There are ways of checking for such things. They aren't guaranteed to catch everyone that tries to join again under a different name, but it catches a lot of them

Steve

[tree.cuddler]

This is a useful thread for newbies such as me, cant wait to see what treasures of yesteryear I can track down!

cheers guys and gals

[cletus awreetus]

Providing you have a decent swap list, I'm sure you'll be able to track down those elusive titles.

[jacksmelad]

Ths is such a wonderful place to share treasures with,However having been badly burnt elsewhere I would like others to know who to avoid both here and elsewhere.
So far every transaction here has been a real pleasure.To have had the pleasure of a chat with the likes of Aitch an absolute joy.However if we got a baddie here, well I think they should be exposed.
Guess we should use the feedback system more thoroughly if not done so already
Britmovies like a bit of old England god bless her !

Jax

[rskershaw]

Originally Posted by theuofc I agree and without wishing to be cynical, one also has no idea where that traded rare film will wind up...perhaps as a dvd-r on EBay going for a high rate? I have been very fortunate in finding cherished films through our good members, yet blind trust is never advised. Barbara

Would it would be a better idea then to list the good members (with their permission of course), rather than try to name and shame the bad ones?

[Steve Crook]

Originally Posted by rskershaw Would it would be a better idea then to list the good members (with their permission of course), rather than try to name and shame the bad ones?

But how would a new member that wanted to trade get on that list? Nobody would want to trade with them because they weren't on the list

The trading feedback system (itrader) is there, but isn't used much

Steve

[rskershaw]

Originally Posted by Steve Crook But how would a new member that wanted to trade get on that list? Nobody would want to trade with them because they weren't on the list The trading feedback system (itrader) is there, but isn't used much Steve

Cheeky!

Sorry, I may have only got half of the story. I was thinking of anyone, new or existing, wanting to buy.

After all, I only found this site when I was trying to obtain copies of a couple of films for a friend's birthday.

See your on the Graveyard shift again Sir. I believe it's handy for meeting Shelias when the rest of us are asleep.

[Steve Crook]

Originally Posted by rskershaw Cheeky! Sorry, I may have only got half of the story. I was thinking of anyone, new or existing, wanting to buy. After all, I only found this site when I was trying to obtain copies of a couple of films for a friend's birthday. See your on the Graveyard shift again Sir. I believe it's handy for meeting Shelias when the rest of us are asleep.

I think the same think will apply. Someone wanting to buy needs someone willing to sell. There are two sides to every trade or transaction.

If you only have a list of good traders then people will be less likely to want to trade with a new member because they're not on the list of good traders.

But if you keep a list of bad traders then people will be more likely to trade with anyone, even a new user without any trading reputation, because they're not on the list of bad traders.

Of course there will be a few of those new users (hopefully only a very few) that do turn out to be bad traders. But they can then be flagged up via itrader and if they get enough bad reports on itrader they can be added to the list of bad traders.

A list of good traders would limit the system, a list of bad traders would let the system expand.

When trading with someone with no trading reputation, even if they're not a new user, people should show some caution. Make the first few just small trades until the experience levels are built up


It's only half past nine here. Is that past your bed-time?

Steve

[Buffalo_Chuck]

I'd never minded investing as the first side of trades, and been burned infrequently. Trading without money exchanges is the kinder way to go.

[DB7]

Originally Posted by Steve Crook A list of good traders would limit the system, a list of bad traders would let the system expand.

What about leechers? Many torrent sites are introducing limiters to ensure those who take also contribute? Tonight I spotted someone and his 'view posts' history reads like this:
Looking for..
Looking for...
Looking for...

and on it goes for pages. He'd made 2 posts elsewhere, and 1 of those was a title scrounge.

[Steve Crook]

Originally Posted by DB7 What about leechers? Many torrent sites are introducing limiters to ensure those who take also contribute? Tonight I spotted someone and his 'view posts' history reads like this: Looking for.. Looking for... Looking for... and on it goes for pages. He'd made 2 posts elsewhere, and 1 of those was a title scrounge.

Difficult to police though as the main purpose of this site is really the exchange of messages. The trading is really a part of those messages.

That one you describe is obviously excessive, but I think they're rare.

Steve

[sippog]

Originally Posted by Steve Crook Difficult to police though as the main purpose of this site is really the exchange of messages. The trading is really a part of those messages.

I think you also have to give forum members some credit for common sense. Unlike file sharing sites, there aren't any files here up for grabs and it's easy to spot those who are too "grabby" in their requests.

Ultimately it's up to you if you want to respond to a request - or not. Successful trading is about building relationships. It doesn't pay to be selfish.