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    Senior Member Country: England paul kersey's Avatar
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    Yes, I am a Dog owner and my Jack Russell has been insured since I first had her.

    It seems that the Labour government wishes to bring in compulsory insurance on all Dogs and also a requirement that all Dogs shoul be micro-chipped. As usual this looks like a sledge-hammer to crack a nut. Why should everyone be forced to pay more just because of the chav types with their fighting dogs and a few owners who shouldn't have a Pot plant let alone a Dog.

    Should this law come in, it may well lead to a large number of responsible Dog owners being forced to consider having their Dogs destroyed, it will not stop the Chavs with their fighting Dogs nor will it prevent there being so called latch key Dogs wandering about loose.

    I would like to see compulsory insurance on Children, this would allow us to seek compensation for vandalism, theft and those little scumbags who practice Graffiti on any available walls. It might also be a good idea for Cyclists to be insured and also to be compelled to carry a registration plate.

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    This seems like a ridiculous idea. I have 2 Jack Russells who are very welltrained and never leave the house unless I am with them. Why would they need to be microchipped or insured?



    All this will do is create a 'TV licence' situation where those that can afford it comply and those who can't simply don't.



    Who will enforce this law? The police are overstretched as it is and I can hardly imagine them being keen to attend a reported unchipped dog. I can't imagine the RSPCA being in favour of extra duties either so will there be a new patrol roaming the street with digital scanners looking for an excuse to take any unfortunate stray to the pound or vet?



    Another example of the Government pandering to minorities and fishing for votes amongst the paranoid sector that believe all young men under 21 own a rabid pitbull that feeds on the children of the middle classes.

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    Another example of kneejerk legislation I'd say. Will they allow chipping and insurance exemptions for OAPs whose dog may be their only companion and who can hardly afford to keep themselves going on the pathetic state pension?

    I quite warm to Paul's idea of compulsory child insurance to fund compensation for the victims of stone-throwing, foul mouthed yobs whose parents have allowed them to run wild. Problem is, it would hit the innocent as well as the guilty. A bit like compulsory dog insurance in fact.... unless... how about a no claims discount of up to 100% for the parents of children who never get into trouble?

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    The Scottish checked out the Poll Tax.



    The Irish have been having a dogs life:



    BBC NEWS | Northern Ireland | New dog licence set to cost £50



    Time the English had some woof justice..........



    and what's this I've been reading about the Swiss?

    Every dog will have his day.... In court !!



    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8550028.stm

    The canton of Zurich has in fact had its own animal lawyer for a number of years; the current incumbent, Antoine Goetschel, is the only state-funded lawyer in Switzerland who goes to court to speak on behalf of animals.

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    we have a chihuahua and the other than drowning in her kisses i cannot see what danger she is to anyone.The point is that the people at whom the act is aimed will ignore it leaving the innocent to suffer.How on earth is this going to be policed.it is nonsensical .

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    Once again this government chooses to punish everyone instead of having the guts to tackle the problem - those individuals who see it as some sort of machismo to keep large, and potentially dangerous dog. Most dog owners love their pets and ensure that they are well trained and can mix comfortably with other dogs and people generally.

    Isn't it likely though that getting this legislation through parliament before the election is remote, if not impossible? Which begs the question is who they think such a law will appeal to?

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    Senior Member Country: UK Freddy's Avatar
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    name='paul kersey']

    I would like to see compulsory insurance on Children, this would allow us to seek compensation for vandalism, theft and those little scumbags who practice Graffiti on any available walls.


    How about children taking out insurance on their parents. If a dog is bad it's usually because of the owner, so it follows that if a child is bad it's usually the fault of the parents.



    If a child has bad parents he could then use his insurance scheme to go and live in an insurance funded boarding school.



    It might also be a good idea for Cyclists to be insured and also to be compelled to carry a registration plate.


    If you join the CTC (Cycle Touring Club) one of the many benefits include having insurance if you do cause an accident.



    Freddy

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    Administrator Country: Wales Steve Crook's Avatar
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    name='Freddy']How about children taking out insurance on their parents. If a dog is bad it's usually because of the owner, so it follows that if a child is bad it's usually the fault of the parents.



    If a child has bad parents he could then use his insurance scheme to go and live in an insurance funded boarding school.
    A good idea, but how does the child pay the premiums?

    If they have bad parents then we can't rely on them to pay the premiums.



    I know, send the children out to work

    They're just wasting their time at school anyway

    I'm sure there are some chimneys that they could scamper up



    Steve

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    Senior Member Country: Spain Rowdon's Avatar
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    name='Steve Crook']



    I know, send the children out to work

    They're just wasting their time at school anyway

    I'm sure there are some chimneys that they could scamper up



    Steve


    I remember in history at school, we were told about kids being sent up chimneys, then, if they got stuck, they just left them there, and after a few days they got so thin they fell back down.



    In other words, children contributing usefully to society and wealth creation, and childhood obesity dealt with as well. And people still think that kind of thing was wrong, and want it to stay illegal! It's political correctness gone mad.

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    Senior Member Country: UK Freddy's Avatar
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    name='Steve Crook']A good idea, but how does the child pay the premiums?

    If they have bad parents then we can't rely on them to pay the premiums.

    Steve


    The tax payer, it could well be that in the long run that cost is far smaller than whatever future costs that child might be responsible for.



    I know, send the children out to work

    They're just wasting their time at school anyway


    And why not, why should young adults be forced to stay at school when clearly they don't want to, and why shouldn't teachers be able to devote all their time, energy and talents to those who want go onto further academic study.



    Those who do leave school could go onto apprenticeships or there would be work for other so they could earn money. There would be the facility of evening classes and courses so that the choice to improve their qualifications would always be there for them.



    Come to think of it, wasn't that what happened twenty or more years ago.









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    name='GoggleboxUK']This seems like a ridiculous idea. I have 2 Jack Russells who are very welltrained and never leave the house unless I am with them. Why would they need to be microchipped or insured?



    All this will do is create a 'TV licence' situation where those that can afford it comply and those who can't simply don't.



    Who will enforce this law? The police are overstretched as it is and I can hardly imagine them being keen to attend a reported unchipped dog. I can't imagine the RSPCA being in favour of extra duties either so will there be a new patrol roaming the street with digital scanners looking for an excuse to take any unfortunate stray to the pound or vet?



    Another example of the Government pandering to minorities and fishing for votes amongst the paranoid sector that believe all young men under 21 own a rabhid pitbull that feeds on the children of the middle classes.




    I totally agree with you. But I do think that people may steal other peoples dog to allow the to roam or even participate in illegal dog fighting! they cant even give young adults ASBO's so why dogs??

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    name='Rowdon']I remember in history at school, we were told about kids being sent up chimneys, then, if they got stuck, they just left them there, and after a few days they got so thin they fell back down.
    I thought they found their way into local water-courses and swim about happily for the rest of their Unnatural lives







    The Waterbabies franchise seems woefully under-exploited in todays film world..... Too much child nudity I suppose.




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