samkydd

As with a man of such character, or lack of it, the shifting of power to a central committee means less responsibility for him and his millionaire cabinet, and so they can pass the buck on to the EU and claim "It's not our fault!". Let's face it, his track record on decision making so far has been abismal!

The rationale behind allowing a more relaxed approach to people seeking asylum is that eventually they'll become citizens and be so grateful that they'll be Labour voters for life!

Unfortunately our infrastructure; social services, roads, hospitals, schools and police forces do not have the resources to cope with unnaturally large increases to the population, and rather than being a racial or cultural issue I think many people are anti-immigration/asylum because of economic reaons.

It will inevitably result in more tax increases and council tax charges just to keep the systems treading water. Most head for the UK (by travelling right across other countries of safety in the rest of Europe) because they know it's a soft touch, and in their position I would do exactly the same. In France a couple of years ago, officials were handing out free ferry tickets to asylum seekers so they could get them off French soil as quickly as possible and on to British!

"...the chairman of Littlewoods stores made a Keynote speech!"

Bell Bottom George

Another impact resulting from immigration, and one which is always overlooked, is the environmental impact - just think about it................more housing needed = more land eaten up. More water needed, more energy used, more rubbish produced, more cars on the roads. This island is jam-packed enough. I read somewhere that the population of Cornwall alone is greater than the whole population of Australia.................! ! !

"What larks we had Mr Pip...........what larks !"

christoph404

Whats the difference between an asylum seeker and someone who mearley wants to emmigrate to the UK? (not a rhetorical question!) I believe there is going to be a shake up in immigration policy and base it on a points system as they do in countries like Australia. I have met people here in London and in Scotland who have come to Britain from both Poland and Bulgaria and the overwhelming impression I get is that they have an incredible work ethic, ie they are here to find jobs, even jobs with low wages by our standards and are not here to simply sign on the dole and bleed the British taxpayers, the immigrants I have met would do anything rather than sign on the dole. On the other hand I know of people in my home town in Scotland who are "professional" benefit exploiters, UK citizens who are unemployed and have no desire to find work and are happy to bleed the system for what they can get.....don't get me wrong, I know jobs are hard to find and I have great sympathy fort the long term unemployed who are struggling to find work but there is a culture of those who don't want to work and who cost the taxpayers millions and I think the majority of those are UK citizens rather than european immigrants, again I think it is a case of some tabloids choosing to focus their stories on an anti european theme and immigration is a good subject to bend to promote those views.

Harleybloke

It was always gonna happen Dave. That idiot EU president, Barroso(?) when France and Holland said 'No' to the EU constitiution, he just moved the goal posts. Our dopey politicans just behave like sheep. If they had a referendum here, I'm certain that would get a huge 'no' but then that would n't be democratic would it......?

EU? Just keep asking the same question, in a different way, until they get the answer they want.

.....You couldn't hear it, if they were shooting at me with howitzers!

Wolfgang

With all due respect Great Britain is seen as 'soft touch' all over world thanks to its ineffectual politicians and inadequate policies and this creates problems for Germany and France too. If we control your borders and create fair laws for your people your country will be much better off.

samkydd

I think they wanted to try this before, between the years 1939 and 1945!

The French government are quite good becuase they always put the interests of the French people first, above anything else! Unfortunately in Britain the government of any political persuassion put everyone else's needs first, and their own citizens get treated with contempt!

"...the chairman of Littlewoods stores made a Keynote speech!"

VladTheImpala

That is soooo wrong! British governments of all persuasions put their needs first and treat their own and everyone else's citizens with equal contempt. Just ask the average citizen of Iraq if they find their needs come first.

David Brent

Dave.

Marky B

We have jobsworths in this country who say we should downgrade Christmas and all its traditions in case "it offends ethnic minorities". Well,I went into a shop yesterday,which is owned by a Sikh,and his wife (dressed in traditional Indian clothes) asked if I was ready for Christmas and I said I hadn't written a card out yet (still haven't). She replied:"Neither have I,I have been too busy. I will make a start tomorrow."
So far from offending them,they just join in as well.
Ta Ta
Marky B

I am special. The heavens always open for me.

VladTheImpala

Does nobody remember what a 'jobsworth' is? Far from being an interfering busybody (the appropriate term for which is 'interfering busybody'), it actually refers to the character who says "..can't do that mate. More than my job's worth".

That's all from pedant's corner for now!

penfold

Who's that then?? Apart from a Daily Mail journalist creating an "It makes my blood boil" story for the Colonel Bufton-Tuftons??

Bit of a Bay Window, what??

christoph404

I reckon the war on Christmas stories are all myths and mainly fantasy made up by idiotic racist journalists, there was a discussion on this topic further down general film chat under "Christmas day in the Workhouse"

BristolUK

The use of that term always irritated me. I mean, just who is willing to risk their job (and livelihood) by doing something they're not supposed to do?

Please Mr Traffic Warden, let me park illegally.

Oh, come on Mr Social Security person, please pay me more than I'm due.

Don't ring this one up and I'll split the money with you.

Can't you pretend you saw my ID?

Here'sshhhh a tenner offisher....I only ad 2 beers....hic!

Cypher

I always understood the term "jobsworth" to refer to someone who sticks to the exact letter of the rules without having the intelligence (or the will) to use common sense in applying them. We have all met these types!

The not-my-job sort of person is different; and here's an example...



Now I have to say that these diversions are fun, but the pseudo-political chit-chat is not really what Britmovie is about (or is it?) and on too many occasions it appears to have led to fairly heated arguments. Have we run out of topics more directly connected to British movies?

C.

"Fetch me another anger therapist!"

christoph404

don't think we have run out of topics related to British films, as we are in "the general chat and discussion" area i think its reasonably okay to have off topic chit chat, normally I would say talking politics can often end in a heated debate though the heated debates and rows that have surfaced here on Britmovie have firmly been on the topic of film rather than politics! thankfully those rows are few and far between, heated debate is okay providing we are civil and respectfull and above all, non abusive, we are all friends here after all!