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Old 24-09-2007, 10:40 PM   #61
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What would these events be this year? I can recall a few but a kidnapping in Portugal seems to have gained more exposure than most.
In Bristol. half a dozen incidents of animal cruelty. Including A dog tied up and set fire to. A cat hung. A cat stamped on until dead.
All verified by RSPCA.

Another spate of deaths from Pure Herion.

Bus drivers refusing passengers for a variety of silly reasons and being disciplined. Verified by bus company.

3 murders in the last two or three weeks. Including: Someone knifed upon opening the door. Someone else in unprovoked attack in a pub....two paramedics assaulted when trying to help that victim...

French student attacked and left for dead. Apparently for being French.

80 year old answers front door and beaten to a pulp. Photo in the paper.

Car clamped because computer said not taxed, even though valid tax disc was displayed. Family go home without it as clampers refused to unclamp despite them seeing the disc and then car was set on fire later.

People being severely wounded travelling on late night buses.

All things verified by people other than the individuals in the reports. Police, Fire Brigade etc

All these things have happened before in Bristol....but maybe twice a year.

Nationally....numerous stabbings and shootings (gun crime is surely increasing)....incidents of people being beaten for helping others....Emergency staff attacked when answering 999 calls.

Children being shot in the head while out cycling.....

There seem to be plenty of horrible things.
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There seem to be plenty of horrible things.
Name me a country where there aren't. The only way to avoid horrible things is to find a country with no people in it.

If you look for horrible things anywhere then you'll find them.
But if you look for nice things then you'll find those as well.
Strange, isn't it

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Name me a country where there aren't.

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Good on you Bristol.

The crime thing really has me beat too. I'm not a Daily Mail type reader so certainly don't react to their sensationist stuff, but when you see and hear of kids being beaten to a pulp just because they were in the wrong place walking past the wrong gang, "dissing them" etc it makes you wonder. When you see someone else has been shot or killed, Damilola Taylor, the lad in Liverpool, etc needlessly, even when you won't flash some berk hogging the middle lane because the ignorant one is liable to get angry and do something to endanger you and everyone else round you, when your neighbour won't go up the shop because the local kids give her abuse and threaten and the police can't do anything because no crime has been commited it makes you wonder how they get these figures that crime is falling. It does seem a more dangerous place, a more violent and crime ridden place. Fact is, it doesn't matter what the truth is, it is what things APPEAR to be that matters.
Well, as someone who still lives in Bristol I can assure you that it's a far nicer place to live than it was when I first arrived twenty years ago, far less violence. The race problems of that era have settled down a great deal and the new drinking laws have toned down the weekend drinking brawls......The Bristol Evening Post is notorious for it's sensational Mailish journalism while the Western Daily Press is seen as the official paper of UKIP....
Did anyone see 'Who do You Think You Are' last week.....Griff Rhys Jones it was....his great grandfather was an engine driver who according to family legend died in a train crash. The truth he found was that he was killed in a post-pub street brawl. The judge at the trial of his opponent railed against pub culture and what we would now call binge drinking....the jury took 7 minutes to acquit the man of manslaughter. Welcome to 1890's Llanelli.
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Vatican City.

With all them priests ??!!
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Vatican City.
I liked the answer but then I read this:-

BBC NEWS | World | Europe | Vatican crime rate 'soars'

"The world's smallest country - the Vatican - has one of the highest crime rates in the world, a report said."
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Vatican City.
Have you seen Godfather III or read about Roberto Calvi?
And don't forget those Borgias

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years ago,my family took off for Canada,i am still a UK citizen and also a Canadian citizen. I am a flight attendant and make many trips to the UK. would i wish to return permantly? no thank you,i have a far better life here in Canada,a much higher standard of living.
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Still, the rugby in France is very good and in the South the weather is better.

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Meanwhile in Bristol the weather is very good and the Rugby better.... :)
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That strikes me as eight excellent reasons NOT to move to Australia!
There is a rumour going around that Jenny Agutter is thinking of moving to Australia on a permanent basis.

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Actually Oz and France are where people are coming to the UK from. (French economy is Lamontesqe)


COUNTRIES OF ORIGIN: 2006/7
Poland: 222,000
India: 49,000
Slovak Repub: 28,000
Pakistan: 25,000
Australia: 24,000
Lithuania: 24,000
France: 20,000
Nice round figures.

Going by those figures, can anyone explain the huge influx of Poles to the UK compared to other countries?
I'm also surprised that those moving to the UK from the Middle East, Africa, the Caribbean and other parts of Asia do not rate a mention?

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Going by those figures, can anyone explain the huge influx of Poles to the UK compared to other countries?


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Probably something to do with the poor quality of UK plumbing!

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Because so many Polish tradesmen and craftsmen are being recruited for the huge amount of building going on over here....there's more work going on than British builders can handle. Meanwhile in Poland there's now a shortage of labour for various projects out there...I don't have any problem with Polish immigration...there has been a strong and popular Polish community in Bristol since the war....a war we may well have lost but for the Poles. One fighter squadron (and one of the best), two bomber squadrons, and they brought us Enigma....
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Children being shot in the head while out cycling.....

There seem to be plenty of horrible things.
Yes and before that there was Dunblane. There's even loads of British 'based on a true-story' films of people doing 'horrible things'.

I put the blame on Heartbeat, The Royal and a dozen other cosy dramas for some odd revisionism.
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