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Old 21-02-2008, 08:50 PM   #766
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If you don't have your driving licence with you then you must give satisfactory proof of your identity and address, if you cannot satisfy the police as to your identity and whether you are entitled to be driving your vehicle, you will be arrested and taken to the police station and held there until your true identity is confirmed. Details of ownership of a vehicle (via the number plate and chassis number)and the owners address, who is insured to drive the car and whether it is taxed or MOT'd are held on a central computer these days which the police can check at the roadside via their radio so its not that easy to simply give false information to the police, you will get rumbled pretty quickly and find yourself in jail! If you give a fictitious name and address that doesn't match the computer records you are asking for trouble! If they are satisfied with your name and address, you are given a summons to visit your local police station with your driving licence, failure to do so will result in criminal proceedings and a knock on your door, yes you could move house and do a runner but then you would be living with a warrant on your name like a fugitive! The law would catch up with you eventually!
The police are instructed by their senior accountants, I mean, senior officers to go after soft targets; law abiding citizens with an income, permanent address and a bank account. People who are too difficult to deal with; youths in gangs, non-English speakers who have no driving licence, tax, MoT or insurance driving death trap mini-cabs, people of no fixed abode who live in caravans, foreign tourists who drive dangerously etc are usually exempt from prosecution because "it's too much hassle!"

This latest spineless generation of police officers avoid trouble like the plague, and the public has little or no respect for them.
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Old 21-02-2008, 08:58 PM   #767
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... but I guess not such a good idea if you are living outside the law and are involved in dodgy dealings such as fraud, car theft etc etc.
Exactly, and you know how many wheeler-dealer, ducking & diving, Arthur Daley types there are in this country. Especially the politicians, most of them are involved in loads of dodgy dealings

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This latest spineless generation of police officers avoid trouble like the plague, and the public has little or no respect for them.
Not at all, we love our policemen

Whenever I'm showing visitors around London, especially German visitors, I always make them go up to a policemen and ask them the time or ask for directions. They're always amazed at how helpful and friendly the police are here

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Exactly, and you know how many wheeler-dealer, ducking & diving, Arthur Daley types there are in this country. Especially the politicians, most of them are involved in loads of dodgy dealings

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Not at all, we love our policemen

Whenever I'm showing visitors around London, especially German visitors, I always make them go up to a policemen and ask them the time or ask for directions. They're always amazed at how helpful and friendly the police are here

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Exactly my point. If I went up to one of them to ask them I'd be arrested for wasting police time!
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I caught the Ten O'Clock news earlier in the week and they had one of their frequent reports on the binge generation of kids today. It was only when I mulled on it for a moment that I recalled buying a tin of Strongbow on the way to lower-secondary school many a time and after leaving school cheapo Kestral lager (whilst sitting about the town centre). On reflection the only difference I can detect is that today's kids have bigger allowances and can afford to get bladdered; we couldn't.
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Not at all, we love our policemen

Whenever I'm showing visitors around London, especially German visitors, I always make them go up to a policemen and ask them the time or ask for directions. They're always amazed at how helpful and friendly the police are here

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On my third day in London way back in January 1964, I asked a policeman to show me how to use a public telephone -- and he did! It was one of those phones with "A" and "B" buttons and I'd never seen one before.

In hindsight I don't know why I was so thick, but most probably I just wanted to be helped by a London bobby and he happened to be nearby at the time.

(I didn't mention that I was phoning for a job interview at the Kensington Palace Hotel --- for a telephonist!}
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Exactly my point. If I went up to one of them to ask them I'd be arrested for wasting police time!
Why would they arrest you for asking the time or for asking directions?
Is it the mask, striped jumper and bag marked "Swag" that you think might make them suspicious?

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Default Oh God! here we go again!

Now, nowhere to run to? The EU has set up a comm to decide how to reduce road deaths to zero.

Good idea!

Noooooooo!! Among the ideas is to ban motocycles!!

Then what? Speed humps on the motorways? Speed limiters to keep cars below 30mph? Ban Porches? Jags?

Get everyone on trains cos they're safe........?

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There is no way to eliminate road deaths ..... simply because human beings make mistakes while walking near fast moving vehicles and while driving them too. Therefore at some point fast moving vehicle will either hit each other, a pedestrian or a cyclist.
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Old 25-02-2008, 02:15 AM   #776
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Bad news for everyone who is sure the country's going to the dogs, isn't the same as when they were young or who has emigrated and revels in bad-news stories from the old country to justify their decision to leave.

The headline from The Londoner a free "local" newspaper sent to all homes in the London area:

Crime hits a 9-year low

Violent crime fell by 17,500 incidents since 2006
GBH down 12%, knife crime down 13%.
Homicide is down by 7% since 2007, by 28% since 2003
Only 160 homicides last year in a population of about 7.5 million!

Knife crime is down but recorded gun crime is up slightly, from a very low base figure. It rose by 4% last year because they now count attacks with pepper spray or CS gas as "projectile weapons". Crime with actual guns as most of us would think of them is down 2.2%

Of course those of you who only want to hear bad news will continue to ignore these figures and continue to believe the worst

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Great, I'll move into a sink estate and adopt a hoody.

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Great, I'll move into a sink estate and adopt a hoody.
That's what I like to see, a reasoned, reasonable response

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That's what I like to see, a reasoned, reasonable response

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Yes but Steve, wasn't it you who repeatedly told us all that you cannot believe everything you read in the papers - especially "official" figures?

Why do you believe these figures in a free "local" paper against all other reports that violent crime is on the increase in the UK?

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Talking of figures and newspapers.

In a recent survey conducted by Steve's "favourite" newspaper 'The Sun', over 95,000 people (99% of the vote) voted to bring back hanging in the UK.

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