Steve Crook

Which are you talking about above? Moncton or Bradford on Avon?

I wouldn't think that either of those places would see much drug related crime and I wouldn't think that if you got involved in trying to stop something now, you would be more likely to suffer abuse or worse than if you tried years ago. The vast majority of people here do still act quite reasonably. It's just that you aren't going to read about them in the scandal sheets that pass as newspapers.

Of course it depends greatly on what it is that you get involved in. There are some things that are best left to the police, just as has always been the case.

Do you really think that the streets of every little (or even medium sized) town in Britain have drug crazed gangs running riot through them? That's hardly ever seen by most people even in the major cities.

You say "But that doesn't mean that the 'worst' today is the same as the 'worst' yesterday."
It depends which "yesterday" you're talking about. I can recall areas of London which were known as no-go areas in my teenage years (1960s-70s) an when there was a lot more street robbery. I now feel a lot safer when I go to any part of London. Is that because there is less danger or because I'm no longer part of the target group of most street crime (young men targeting other young men)? Who can tell. I just know that this country has a remarkably small amount of crime for its population, and its population density. Most of us are squeezed into a very small space, but most of us get on very well

Steve

David Brent

You forgot to mention your subscription to 'Huge Jugs Monthly' Marky.

Dave.

David Brent

The powers that be have a policy of treating the public like mushrooms.

Keep them in the dark and feed them bullsh**.

Dave.

Marky B

Damn sight more interesting than "Toby Jugs Monthly" by the sound of it.
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Marky B

I am special. The heavens always open for me.

BristolUK

It makes not the slightest difference that the majority are good. It's how the minority reacts 'now' compared to 'then' and these days they are more likely to turn on you, verbally or physically, as shown by the recent cases.

Of course not. I didn't say that. That's just your way of trying to ridicule the holder of a different opinion.

As far as I can recall there have always been no-go areas. One could virtually guarantee avoiding trouble by not going there (hence the name). And I'm not blaming victims for going there so don't accuse me of being one of those who say "she was just asking for it with that short skirt." The point is that people knew about no-go areas and one could decide whether or not to go there.

Those desperate for their fix don't limit themselves to these areas now, which is why you can get mugged in town centres with plenty of people about. Or just attacked by someone not on their medication. Rare, granted, but rare is more common than not at all.

Places like Bristol have massive drug problems. They didn't have them to anything like the same extent 30 years ago.

Marky B

Aren't you getting me mixed up with a Daily Sport reader?
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Marky B

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samkydd

For once wouldn't it be wonderful if a newly appointed Chief Constable sent a memo to his policemen saying "From now on there is no such thing as a "no go area"!"

The trouble is that the likes of Gene Hunt or Jack Regan would never make it to such a senior level, they're usually fast-track college boys with a penchant for political sensitivities!

"...the chairman of Littlewoods stores made a Keynote speech!"

TimR

Oh - I missed this post....

Yes, it's the same here. Usually in the US, it is "mixed" with something: country/folk, folk/rock, folk/jazz....to the point where it means very little.


Yeah!

Add Nigel and Verity to the gallery.




Love the 'wailing'.....

That really does sound like the US. :

He is subtle and thoughtful and demands something from his listeners. I'm glad to see that he has a following in Britain.

They are probably very similar to the folk songs here!

The parts of the US where folk music is most popular are the places where the English and/or Scottish and/or Irish influence remained strongest for the longest time.

New England and the mountains of the south are the two places (so different in others ways) where there is still a large audience, and most of the singers and songwriters come from those two areas.

pustice

Where were these no go areas in the 60s?
I remember some ares of Brixton. And Broadwater Farm. (My old mum and dad lived on there (73 Lympne).

Steve Crook

It looks like you've answered your own question
But for me, the no-go areas were also where there were lots of skinhead gangs

Steve

mcmanus.darrel

The question is, will the great in great britain ever come back or has it gone forever?
we dont have to rule the world to be great, bit at one time there was pride in the country, sense of right or wrong, neighbourlyness, weve lost the core values "dixon of dock green".
These latest killers just sentenced, before there sentence was announced the radio commentator said "probably get life"!!!, one butchered 5 and we cant say he will get life beforehand!!!
the beauty of film you can lose yourself in past times.

TimR

Don't give up!

I say that as an outsider, I know - but sometimes outsiders do perceive things that are true.

Britain has been a bright light. Don't let that light go out.

DB7

I'm not so bothered about 'Great' and the days of empire. But times have changed, whilst my hometown has improved in leaps and bounds aesthetically the loss of community is palbable as many once popular events like fairs and the May Day parade have died through lack of interest. I think back to our Silver Jubilee street party in the 70s and just can't imagine similar events today.

Steve Crook

Terrible isn't it. Whatever happened to mob justice?
Oh yes, there is now the rule of law and annoying things like evidence to be considered

As for "the old days". There are many things from the old days that I'm glad we haven't kept. TB, childhood rickets, high infant mortality etc., etc.

And as for the sense of right and wrong, neighbourliness, Dixon of Dock Green etc., it does depend where you live and how much you put in to your local community. I think that where I live, in SW London, still has a lot of those values

Steve

Steve Crook

When the Silver Jubilee happened there was a street party round our way. But most of us youngsters (as we were back then) went to the free concert (organised by Ken Livingstone and the GLC) where we saw the Boomtown Rats, Ian Dury and many other great acts

Steve