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Old 05-03-2008, 05:42 AM
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I like America.

I like Israel.

I think the Palestinian people should get a fair shake.

I like England.

I respect other people being proud of their heritage, Ireland, Wales, Scotland, Kwa Zulu, Pakistan....................

Am I mad?
There's two things I cannot stand.
One is racial discrimination.
The other is the bloody French.

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there are two things i cant stand lazy sods who lives on the dole and the second is
people who talk about the good old days but dont know what it feels like to wonder how to pay the rent and feed the children . while other people live off their proverty .
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Old 05-03-2008, 07:51 AM
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Steve, really, shame on you.

The present Queen has more British blood in her than any other monarch for centuries. The Queen is 50% British, courtesy of her mother.

The affectation of those who, even in my youth, referred to the "Hanovarian Usurpers" is a trifle passe!
See this symbol ?
It means it was a joke. Knowing full well, and knowing that most people know that whenever anyone refers to their German ancestry, they are joking - or most people know it anyway. I've never heard anyone take it as a serious comment before

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Foreign prisoners are being offered £3,000 to leave Britain, the Government has admitted.

The standard financial reintegration package is £800, but the higher offer has been introduced as the jail population hits record levels.


The "enhanced" incentive is available until the end of next month.
Lin Homer, chief executive of the Border and Immigration Agency, said: "We strongly believe foreign lawbreakers should be sent home at the earliest opportunity.
"Every day that we can get these individuals out of the country early saves our taxpayers over £100 a night. That's why we want to use the Facilitated Returns Scheme to get as many foreign criminals out of the UK as possible by extending last year's scheme to last until April."

The standard scheme - announced by then Home Secretary John Reid in 2006 as a means of easing the prison overcrowding crisis - offers a package of up to £800 for help with education, training, housing and resettlement.
This is in addition to the £46 discharge grant which prisoners receive on leaving jail.

Between October last year and January this year, the Home Office offered an enhanced package of £1,500 for reintegration assistance.

According to the Home Office, more than 4,200 foreign prisoners were deported last year - 80% more than the previous year. It said the Facilitated Returns Scheme helped achieve that figure.

So they leave the country with £3000 each and then spend it back home, then come back here again with false papers!

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Steve, really, shame on you.

The present Queen has more British blood in her than any other monarch for centuries. The Queen is 50% British, courtesy of her mother.

The affectation of those who, even in my youth, referred to the "Hanovarian Usurpers" is a trifle passe!
By that calculation the heir to the throne is half-Greek !!

Bit of a Bay Window, what??
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By that calculation the heir to the throne is half-Greek !!
No they are as British as Tommy Atkins!

The name Saxe-Coburg-Gotha came to the British Royal Family in 1840 with the marriage of Queen Victoria to Prince Albert, son of Ernst, Duke of Saxe-Coburg & Gotha. Queen Victoria herself remained a member of the House of Hanover.

The only British monarch of the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha was King Edward VII, who reigned for nine years at the beginning of the modern age in the early years of the twentieth century.

King George V replaced the German-sounding title with that of Windsor during the First World War. The name Saxe-Coburg-Gotha survived in other European monarchies, including the current Belgian Royal Family and the former monarchies of Portugal and Bulgaria.

The Royal Family name of Windsor was confirmed by The Queen after her accession in 1952. However, in 1960, The Queen and The Duke of Edinburgh decided that they would like their own direct descendants to be distinguished from the rest of the Royal Family (without changing the name of the Royal House), as Windsor is the surname used by all the male and unmarried female descendants of George V.

It was therefore declared in the Privy Council that The Queen's descendants, other than those with the style of Royal Highness and the title of Prince/Princess, or female descendants who marry, would carry the name of Mountbatten-Windsor.

This reflected Prince Philip's surname. In 1947, when Prince Philip of Greece became naturalised, he assumed the name of Philip Mountbatten as a Lieutenant in the Royal Navy.

The effect of the declaration was that all The Queen's children, on occasions when they needed a surname, would have the surname Mountbatten-Windsor.

For the most part, members of the Royal Family who are entitled to the style and dignity of HRH Prince or Princess do not need a surname, but if at any time any of them do need a surname (such as upon marriage), that surname is Mountbatten-Windsor.

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By that calculation the heir to the throne is half-Greek !!
Exactly. That's why Private Eye often refers to his dad as Phil the Greek

But they don't mean it to be taken seriously

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No they are as British as Tommy Atkins!
Well, as British as any British royal family.

We've had Germans (House of Hannover and descendants)
We've had Scots (House of Stewart)
We've had Dutch (House of Orange)
We've had Welsh (Tudors)
We've had French (Normans & the House of Plantagenet)
We're used to it

Who was the last King of England from an English family?

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Well, as British as any British royal family.

We've had Germans (House of Hannover and descendants)
We've had Scots (House of Stewart)
We've had Dutch (House of Orange)
We've had Welsh (Tudors)
We've had French (Normans & the House of Plantagenet)
We're used to it

Who was the last King of England from an English family?

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Don't know, but the last King of Scotland was Idi Amin.
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King Arthur? Hereward the Wake?

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Don't know, but the last King of Scotland was Idi Amin.


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Well, whatever anyones heritage, I for one wouldn't want anyone else as Head of State........Long may she reign!


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King Arthur? Hereward the Wake?
Herward the Wake, or more properly Haerward who inherited the English Title on the death of Harold...and continued resistance to the Normans until 1072 or so in East Anglia. He was never captured or killed, and his eventual fate is unknown, but the Harwood families, by tradition (With all that implies) claim descendancy. My mother is a Harwood...no need to bow though.

Bit of a Bay Window, what??
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Herward the Wake, or more properly Haerward who inherited the English Title on the death of Harold...and continued resistance to the Normans until 1072 or so in East Anglia. He was never captured or killed, and his eventual fate is unknown, but the Harwood families, by tradition (With all that implies) claim descendancy. My mother is a Harwood...no need to bow though.
Don't be so modest your majesty ...

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