Originally Posted by samkydd

That may be the case in London but when you live out in the Provinces it's a different ball game.

Originally Posted by samkydd

That may be the case in London but when you live out in the Provinces it's a different ball game. When I lived in London I rarely used my car except to go away at the weekend, but to hop into town on a bus now costs £1.90 each way (2 miles) and to take my car it's less than 40p in diesel, and I have to own a car anyway to travel 40 miles each way to work!

Originally Posted by samkydd

Offering no real alternative either! Public transport is expensive and people feel insecure travelling by bus and train because of yobs, muggers and of course the abysmal safety record of cost-cutting privatised rail services, and the general unreliability which can hamper your journey to work and back with alarming regularity.

Twenty five years ago the government wanted people to live out of town and commute on motorways, and now that we're all doing that they try and f*** us up completely by suddenly declaring cars as "enemy of The State"! What do they expect people to do, walk or cycle along the hard shoulder of a motorway to work and back (it would probably be quicker than driving)?

The only way round is to buy a car that is pre-1972 and then at least you get free road tax!

MPs are the biggest hypocrits and do you know that the Houses of Parliament are exempt from the no smoking ban!

The best thing we can do is all emigrate to Poland and start from a clean sheet of paper and build a half-decent country from scratch and rename all the towns and cities to English ones, and put a government in place that isn't just a bunch of "yes" men treading water until they've make a few quid as non-executive directors of banks and retire to the after dinner speaker circuit talking bullshit to gullible corporate clients!

We need to fight back against this dictatorial government's oppression of the people, solidarnosi!

Originally Posted by Marky B

I shop at Morrison's at Teesside Park and a few years ago,when we had no car,it was a case of hit and miss with bus schedules. When I did get a bus,it took forty five minutes to get to the park (via Stockton) and then I had to time my shopping,so that I could through the checkout and try and catch the next bus to Billingham. If I had missed it,it was another hour before the next one. So for this alone,it was up to three hours of my day doing the shopping. Now there are no direct buses to Teesside Park from Billingham,so I am afraid the only option is the car (or an expensive taxi run).
Like Sam said,there have been no alternatives offered,and of course the Chancellor is using the "green" issue to screw more money out of motorists (in six months time,anyway),even though there is still a solid counter argument that man is not responsible for climate change.
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Marky B

Originally Posted by Steve Crook

Eee, it's grim oop North
I think a lot of those complaints might be more fairly laid at the door of local government rather than national. In lots of other areas they offer free buses between the big supermarkets and all the local centres of population

Steve

Originally Posted by Freddy

Sorry chaps, but here for eight months of the year I use our steam railway. A resident ticket costs less than £40 . Can be used for work and going to Tesco, always punctual, though sometimes delayed when there is a cow on the line.



Also for cyclists and horse riders, the road manners on the island are first class. Everyone gives you time and space. The bus drivers are the best, considerate to the elderly and always go out of there way to be helpful.

Freddy

Originally Posted by Marky B

I think those complaints are not alone oop north,maybe doon south as well.
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Marky B

Originally Posted by GRAEME

Yeah. But having to have three legs must really drag after a while, right?

Originally Posted by Steve Crook

Maybe, but it's still grim oop North

Steve

Originally Posted by Steve Crook

It must make it difficult to buy shoes, or trousers

Steve

Originally Posted by lordtednfs

Think back to the late 50's and early 60's when many of our earlier generations were not willing to do the dirty work. Who did they get in to do it? The West Indians and they came over to work on the Underground and buses for some thirty five to fourty years before things changed for the worst. That's what is happening now, except it's those people from eastern europe who want to work and the good people of GB are putting them down for it.

My question: Why are they condeming people who want to work for an honest days pay when those that live there wont work?

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Hooked off the line

Originally Posted by Steve Crook

Maybe, but it's still grim oop North

Steve

Originally Posted by Marky B

Oh no it ain't! I wouldn't swop it for anywhere else in the country.
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Marky B

Originally Posted by Owlett

Graeme

I'd guess the IOM railways staff affect steam-age efficiency...