lordtednfs

Despite all the negative things about the Philippines, corruption ect, the one thing that can be said for the filipinos is that they are very concious about green issues, and use the plastic bags from the stores as rubbish bags rather than go out and buy rubbish bags and now we have to seperate our rubbish into various bags and we don't have to pay for the council to remove our old refrigerators, they are collected and recycled properly.

Electricity and water is never wasted, most people, including myself, bathe using just one bucket of water containing about 5 litres of water. My water bill in the UK was about 300 pound a year, but here it's less than 100 and it's metered. My overall bills for the year for gas, water and electricity is less than a thousand.

A great place this.

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lordtednfs

Or a knotted hankie on your head. MR GUMBY!!!!!!

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Marky B

Sometimes you might get the boy scouts or girl guides packing them for you,and you give them some money to go towards their costs or charity.
In Tesco,you get points on your club card if you bring your own bag.
My concern is not so much the bags themselves (I think I was a bit harsh by saying they should be banned),but the liberal use of them. I sometimes buy things in Tesco Express,where I buy just a few things that I can carry easily in my hand(s) to the car,if I haven't got my re-usable bags with me.
I sometimes walk from Billingham to Norton on Sundays,and there is a bit of greenery that is plagued by empty beer cans,carrier bags etc. People just disgard things out of their hands rather than take them home or drop them in a litter bin.
I'm sorry,I just hate litter.
Ta Ta
Marky B

I once shot an elephant in my pyjamas - how he got in my pyjamas,I'll never know

Moor Larkin

There was a documentary about a lady, who is doing ecology work in Hawaii. She tours the colonies of Albatrosses (I think) after they've all flown away. She collects all the contents of the stomachs of all the dead ones left behind. The adults instinctively scoop up anything they find floating in the seas off the islands, and regurgitate to their chicks. The woman reckons most of the dead chicks died of starvation. They all had full stomachs - just full of the wrong things: mostly plastic cigarette lighters, arms and legs of plastic dolls, plastic pens and so on. To the best of my memory there wasn't a Tesco bag in her impressive collection, which she lined up on the beach for the cameras.

Walking along the shore near where I live, the (non-bathing) beach is scattered with plastic bottles of all shapes and sizes, fishing nets and similar bits and bobs...... not a single carrier bag though. The deadly bags are all tangled up in the fencing near the housing estates where my idle neighbours live, the ones who can't be bothered to pick up their own rubbish. The bags are unsightly, but seem to breaking down satisfactorily in the ultraviolet sunshine now prevalent in the absence of the ozone........ Nature always finds a way.



I'm a jolly bag-man, not at all stuck-up, your Honour, m'lud.

Steve Crook

Or even worse, the small packs of fruit and vegetables - on a plastic tray with more plastic wrapped over it

In the old days, all fruit & veg was just sold "loose". You put them in a bag obviously but that let you buy exactly the number or amount of things you wanted. And there's nothing wrong with mixing most fruit and veg in the same bag. They don't all need their own bag

Steve

Gazza

It's all to do with greed Steve. The supermarkets don't like us buying loose fruit and veg because of the potential for wastage. And for the stuff we can choose ourselves and put in a bag . . . why can't they be paper?

Dame Starry

This is a copy of an e-mail I received from Ocado (Waitrose):

You may have seen in the media that many retailers are being requested to stop using plastic bags, and various legal initiatives are underway to outlaw single use shopping bags in different parts of the UK.
I am writing to explain further how we use plastic bags in compiling your grocery delivery, and what you can expect to experience when your delivery is made.
Our primary reason for using bags is to ensure separation of products during the picking and delivery process. This is needed to minimise product damage and to ensure that any products which need to be kept apart, are kept apart.
It is important to stress that Ocado bags are NOT single use bags. Our bags are made from recycled Ocado plastic bags, and this recycling takes place in the UK. We collect bags from customers to feed back into this recycling loop. You should therefore expect to be asked by your driver to return your bags to him or her, and you can do this immediately or keep the bags and return them when you receive your next delivery.
I would also like to clarify that you are entitled to keep your Ocado bags if you wish, and use them elsewhere in your household. Please note that our bags are 100% biodegradable and will disintegrate in landfill sites within 24 months if disposed of with your normal household waste. However we would appreciate it if you would return the bags to us, so that we can recycle them into new Ocado bags.

….they also say this:

We are very concerned that our bags don't contribute to environmental problems. That is why all our bags are biodegradable. Almost all retailers import their plastic bags from abroad (particularly China). We're now building our own on-site processing plant to recycle them, making us the very first retailer in the UK to collect, recycle and remake our own carrier bags.

Perhaps they’d like to share their new processing plant with all the other supermarkets.

YDSL x.

Dame Starry

I think that all food manufacturers should be forced to put their heads together and come up with better ways of packaging their food in order to produce less waste – as opposed to the government constantly targeting and taxing the consumer.

I vacuum pack a lot of my own food which prolongs its shelf-life and saves a lot of space; I very seldom have to waste any food at all. However, the bags that I have to buy cannot be recycled – and, I suspect, the ones used in vacuum-packing commercial food cannot either. Also, soft food just pulverises if you attempt to vacuum pack it - some food has to be frozen first – so it isn’t a suitable process for a lot of fresh food including meat.

It seems that you can’t solve one problem without creating another these days!

We all turned our backs on the greengrocers who used to throw everything in our shopping bags and add up in their heads as they went along and the butchers who used to wrap our meat in paper (greaseproof?) and then put it into a paper bag. The corner shops where we put our dry goods directly into our shopping baskets have gone too. For what? Greed – just so that we could buy more for less under one roof and, yes, I’m as guilty as anybody!

It’s greed that will kill this planet - in one way or another.

YDSL x.

Steve Crook

For some time now, Sainsbury's bags have said "This bag is made from 33% recycled material" and they collect old bags as well (old Sainsbury's plastic shopping bags that is) and put them back into the recycling system - however efficient that is

Steve

Marky B

Morrison's and Tesco tend to put their mince in plastic cartons,and then wrap it up in cellophane,which if you intend to freeze it,takes up more room. Anyway,we are starting to get our mince from a local butcher called "Mr Moo".
Ta Ta
Marky B

I once shot an elephant in my pyjamas - how he got in my pyjamas,I'll never know

Steve Crook

Does Mr Moo have another branch called Mr Oink where you get the pork?

Steve

Marky B

With a Mr Baaaa where they sell lamb.
Ta Ta
Marky B

I once shot an elephant in my pyjamas - how he got in my pyjamas,I'll never know

Steve Crook

But where do they sell the pheasant, rabbit, hare, grouse ... ?

Steve

Dame Starry

Has anybody else noticed the adverts at the top and bottom of this page if you're not logged in?

YDSL x.

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