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Old 12-03-2008, 03:17 PM
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I think I'll give one of these Chinese 36 day take-aways a go. I'm fed up of being told that if they have something off the peg to fit me somebodys going to get the sack.

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Old 12-03-2008, 03:23 PM
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In American supermarkets and smaller stores, there is often a choice of plastic or thick brown paper bags at the check-out. Not the perfect answer, but every little helps!

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One store we went into near Johannesburg had a member of staff who carefully packed everything into a cardboard box ( no plastic bags here! ) then before we had a chance to say anything bore it away outside to where he assumed our car was going to be. With some embarrassment we had to explain that we had walked to the store - unheard of in this particular suburb - while he gazed at us in disbelief !
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Are carrier bags made from the same stuff as bin bags .... if so, why are we forced to use bin bags, especially in the age of the wheelie bin. Surely if carrier bags are a danger, so are bin bags ... and garden sacks as well. Please don't tell me that bin bags don't cause a danger to wildlife etc because I see them all over the countryside, on the beach, in hedges, in fields, in ponds and in rivers. If we ban carrier bags, bin bags et al must go too!
Well said, Bats!

Now that my rubbish has to sit in the wheelie bin for a fortnight and the plastic absorbs all the smells, I use far more carrier bags and black dustbin liners than I have ever done before to wrap up my rubbish in order to hold the stench back!
I live in a Close which is open-planned and we all have designated cupboards for rubbish - now redundant and empty.
This means that one dwelling has 4 bins outside their door: 2 x recycling and 2 x rubbish and, as you come into the close now, all you can see are green bins everywhere with black bags sitting on the top of them! The Planning Department wouldn't even consider any alternatives which would have meant that we could use the cupboards we have.
I actually have to tie my bins up because they blow all over the place!

Plus, with all the extra work sorting out the rubbish, putting it in the correct bin and putting the right bin out every week, I can't help thinking that I have become an unpaid Council employee!

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Seeing how people behave after they have a drink these days I think it's time to ban booze

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Seeing how people behave after they have a drink these days I think it's time to ban booze
It's the people who should be banned .... alcohol itself isn't the problem, it's the vast quantities of the stuff consumed by idiots who can't handle it that's the problem.

The US tried banning booze if you recall .... it gave the world a new industry called Organised Crime.

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I'm sick of people talking RUBBISH
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In American supermarkets and smaller stores, there is often a choice of plastic or thick brown paper bags at the check-out. Not the perfect answer, but every little helps!
Do they Tescos in the USA?
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:04 PM
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It's the people who should be banned .... alcohol itself isn't the problem, it's the vast quantities of the stuff consumed by idiots who can't handle it that's the problem.

The US tried banning booze if you recall .... it gave the world a new industry called Organised Crime.
You've hit it on the head there,Bats. Putting up prices isn't going to solve the problem;moving the age to 21 isn't going to solve the problem;putting them in the slammer for a day or so,will;using water cannons on drunk fulled riots will.
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Well said, Bats!

Now that my rubbish has to sit in the wheelie bin for a fortnight and the plastic absorbs all the smells, I use far more carrier bags and black dustbin liners than I have ever done before to wrap up my rubbish in order to hold the stench back!
I live in a Close which is open-planned and we all have designated cupboards for rubbish - now redundant and empty.
This means that one dwelling has 4 bins outside their door: 2 x recycling and 2 x rubbish and, as you come into the close now, all you can see are green bins everywhere with black bags sitting on the top of them! The Planning Department wouldn't even consider any alternatives which would have meant that we could use the cupboards we have.
I actually have to tie my bins up because they blow all over the place!

Plus, with all the extra work sorting out the rubbish, putting it in the correct bin and putting the right bin out every week, I can't help thinking that I have become an unpaid Council employee!

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Take them down to your local council offices and see how they like them

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While all the greens rave on about getting rid of plastic bags I have seen shocking reports on news services around the world that are to me more ominous for the future of mankind.
In the U.S. the numbers of working bees have diminished in great amounts across that country over the last few years.
Around the world the numbers of frog species is also in great decline.
And now we hear that numbers of the beautiful British butterfly population have fallen by up to 40% across the UK.
No one seems to know the exact cause for the decline of these and other creatures but pollution, spraying and land development seem the main reasons.

No insects, no pollination, no crops, no food.

I think that is a little bit more important than the plastic bag argument. Without adequate food stocks in the future we may not have enough groceries to put in our shopping bags.

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While all the greens rave on about getting rid of plastic bags I have seen shocking reports on news services around the world that are to me more ominous for the future of mankind.
In the U.S. the numbers of working bees have diminished in great amounts across that country over the last few years.
Around the world the numbers of frog species is also in great decline.
And now we hear that numbers of the beautiful British butterfly population have fallen by up to 40% across the UK.
No one seems to know the exact cause for the decline of these and other creatures but pollution, spraying and land development seem the main reasons.

No insects, no pollination, no crops, no food.

I think that is a little bit more important than the plastic bag argument. Without adequate food stocks in the future we may not have enough groceries to put in our shopping bags.

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I still think there should be a curtailing of plastic bags,however,I have read this before about the dimishing of bees. The green issue is getting too much media coverage,when the likes of this is quietly getting forgotten about.
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I still think there should be a curtailing of plastic bags,however,I have read this before about the dimishing of bees. The green issue is getting too much media coverage,when the likes of this is quietly getting forgotten about.
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Apparently swarms of bees are getting trapped in discarded Tesco bags and cannot get out, which is why you'll see plastic carrier bags apparently "floating" several feet in the air, they're full of bees trying to escape! Some sympathetic retail stores like Bee-Wise are now putting little holes in the bags for the creatures to escape through!

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