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Old 16-04-2008, 11:19 AM
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I have to admit that leaving a TV set on standby being harmful was something I had no knowledge of.
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Ah, so that's what it is!..........more Scaremongering by the Green Police, I did wonder how 'Standby' could be linked to C02 emissions.
This is an interesting one. My memory is that the 'standby' switch came in partly because there was pressure to stop people just leaving their televisions on, when they weren't in the room (or the house in some cases.... ). The theory was that people were *too lazy* to get of their lardy backsides and switch the darn thing off, so having a standby function on the newly available remote controls was an easy way to get them to do it.

However nobody explained that this meant you still used electric. It was taken as a magic bullet and so some stopped switching their television off altogether; they left it on *standby* 24 hours a day............... resulting in more electric being used than ever before...............

There are similar mythologies about not turning your car engine off because *you use more petrol starting it again*. Fortunately nobody is yet so dumb that they leave their engines running 24 hours a day (unless they're in the Arctic zone, where it can be common practice I believe).

There was the other one about never turning fluorescent lights off, on the same premise as the car engine thing..... *you use more energy turning them on than you do running them* Many Office Blocks seem to have taken this theory as gospel, I have noticed.

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Old 16-04-2008, 12:27 PM
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yeah and out of the film too quickly as well ,must have been in a rush to be somewhere else to film something more important ,like queen kong , mind you , she had the similar amount of " wardrobe" as she usually does ,ie none ,so it wasnt all bad news

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Old 16-04-2008, 12:55 PM
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However nobody explained that this meant you still used electric. It was taken as a magic bullet and so some stopped switching their television off altogether; they left it on *standby* 24 hours a day............... resulting in more electric being used than ever before...............
Of course it still uses electricity when it's on standby.
But how much electricity does a TV use when it's left on permanently?
And how much does it use when it's on standby?

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Global warming? What global warming?

We've just had a reasonably heavy (for us) snowfall in SW London. Heavy enough to settle on the ground and the rooftops.

We're two weeks past the spring equinox. It's meant to be getting warmer

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I'm no expert on this stuff but logic tells me that if global warming is taking place and the polar caps are melting, the seas around the UK are going to get colder first, surely that means we will get wetter and colder weather as a result of the warming, true or not?

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And how much does it use when it's on standby?
How the hell should I know? ........ .......

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How the hell should I know? ........ .......
Then why the hell are you talking about it?

The answer is that a TV does still use electricity when it's on standby, but it's a tiny amount compared to when it's switched on. And even the amount used when it's switched on won't make any difference to global warming - unless everyone in the world had a TV set and left it switched on all day. And I can't really see that happening

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The answer is that a TV does still use electricity when it's on standby
Well you would say that now. You've read my Link!

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unless everyone in the world had a TV set and left it switched on all day. And I can't really see that happening
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I'm no expert on this stuff but logic tells me that if global warming is taking place and the polar caps are melting, the seas around the UK are going to get colder first, surely that means we will get wetter and colder weather as a result of the warming, true or not?

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This is not a bad conjecture.
There is another theory which has in part been born out through experiment that the excessive rainfall caused by global warming will be more detrimental in the Northern hemisphere.The natural recycling will find it's way via the larger rivers in Siberia, which will spew out more freshwater into the seas.This will have a marked effect on the natural flow of the gulf stream( freshwater being less dense than saltwater).This could signal the end of the Gulf Stream as we know it giving rise to bitterly cold winters in the UK and Ireland.
I have put this succinctly but have included a link which may be of interest.
BBC - Weather Centre - Climate Change - Gulf Stream
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Well you would say that now. You've read my Link!
Or maybe it was just common sense or my background in studying physics that told me

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Global warming? What global warming?

We've just had a reasonably heavy (for us) snowfall in SW London. Heavy enough to settle on the ground and the rooftops.

We're two weeks past the spring equinox. It's meant to be getting warmer

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There was an Australian astrophysicist on the radio here this morning.

He claimed that lack of sunspots (apparently absent at the moment) on the sun

will cause the climate to cool & that we will experience weather similar to that

of the 1830's!

Who are we supposed to believe?
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Old 24-04-2008, 07:48 AM
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There was an Australian astrophysicist on the radio here this morning.

He claimed that lack of sunspots (apparently absent at the moment) on the sun

will cause the climate to cool & that we will experience weather similar to that

of the 1830's!

Who are we supposed to believe?
That sounds like a reasonable piece of research. Climate change is a natural phenomenon so these things are likely to occur as times marches on.

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It has got to a point where global warming caused by man and cows farting,has become a religion and anyone who suggests otherwise is a heretic. Some of us would be burned at the stake,but they daren't because it causes climate change.
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It has got to a point where global warming caused by man and cows farting,has become a religion and anyone who suggests otherwise is a heretic. Some of us would be burned at the stake,but they daren't because it causes climate change.
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It's just the latest band-waggon that all politicians and large companies want to be seen to be on

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There was an Australian astrophysicist on the radio here this morning.

He claimed that lack of sunspots (apparently absent at the moment) on the sun

will cause the climate to cool & that we will experience weather similar to that

of the 1830's!

Who are we supposed to believe?
I was listening to the radio and one guy was saying Australia is suffering a profound drought and this is an early sign of things to come. I occasionally correspond with someone near Cairns and he's been flooded out twice, in the last three or four years.....


The British have always understood the weather................

......... You can't bloody rely on it!!
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It's just the latest band-waggon that all politicians and large companies want to be seen to be on

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Especially Al Gore .... failed presidential candidates have to do something.

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