Global warming?

[Steve Crook]

Global warming? What global warming?

We've just had a reasonably heavy (for us) snowfall in SW London. Heavy enough to settle on the ground and the rooftops.

We're two weeks past the spring equinox. It's meant to be getting warmer

Steve

[davidb]

there will be someone who will argue that the snow in april is due to global warming ! or that black is white for that matter ,the whole thing is a con to get people to pay "green taxes "

[Pip]

Originally Posted by davidb there will be someone who will argue that the snow in april is due to global warming ! or that black is white for that matter ,the whole thing is a con to get people to pay "green taxes "

There are none so blind as those who won't see

[davidb]

Originally Posted by Pip There are none so blind as those who won't see

i could "see" the snow on april 6th

[Marky B]

Originally Posted by davidb there will be someone who will argue that the snow in april is due to global warming ! or that black is white for that matter ,the whole thing is a con to get people to pay "green taxes "

I totally agree.
Ta Ta
Marky B

[batman]

Climate change is a natural phenomenon. The crap that the human race has churned out into the atmosphere hasn't helped, but the Earth has been evolving and changing for millions of years and will continue to do so. We will have to adapt to whatever Mother Earth has in store for us.

[Mark O]

We had our share in Southern Essex too!.........I've read some interesting articles about the 'other side' of Global warming recently, one was in yesterdays Daily Mail....... (yes, I know but I only really get it for the TV mag!)

Why don't the 'Greens' all the rest of them that like to frighten People about 'the Future', just come out and say what they really want to say, like "We want every Human Being to stop using Vehicles, Flying by Air, Stop eating Cow, and we want everyone to live in Mudhut Communes and scrape a Vegan living off the Land".........that's their real philosophy

A few pics from my neighbourhood.........no one going to the Fair today I reckon!

[CaptainWaggett]

Originally Posted by Mark O We had our share in Southern Essex too!.........I've read some interesting articles about the 'other side' of Global warming recently, one was in yesterdays Daily Mail....... (yes, I know but I only really get it for the TV mag!) Why don't the 'Greens' all the rest of them that like to frighten People about 'the Future', just come out and say what they really want to say, like "We want every Human Being to stop using Vehicles, Flying by Air, Stop eating Cow, and we want everyone to live in Mudhut Communes and scrape a Vegan living off the Land".........that's their real philosophy

Do you actually know any Greens? Or have any evidence of their secret agenda? Because I don't really recognise myself your description (though I would like it if everyone stopped eating Cow )

[batman]

Originally Posted by CaptainWaggett I would like it if everyone stopped eating Cow

I would like it if fewer people ate steak .... 'cos that would mean there'd be more for me!

[Marky B]

Originally Posted by batman Climate change is a natural phenomenon. The crap that the human race has churned out into the atmosphere hasn't helped, but the Earth has been evolving and changing for millions of years and will continue to do so. We will have to adapt to whatever Mother Earth has in store for us.

I agree that the pollution that we have churned out has been no help,not only to the global environment,but local environment,what we are going through is a cycle that has been going on for millions of years. One Lib Dem MP announced last year that cows farting has an effect on the environment - so what does he propose us to do,put bungs in their arses.
The debate on this issue seems to favour the green "We're doomed,doomed" lobby rather than those who acknowledge that is not a man made issue and as Bats has quitely rightly said,"We will have to adapt to whatever Mother Earth has in store for us."
Man may have billions in whatever currency at their proposal,they may have the technology,they may have the brains,they may have the communication,rulers come and go,but Mother Nature has the casting vote on all our fortunes.
Ta Ta
Marky B

[Mark O]

Originally Posted by CaptainWaggett Do you actually know any Greens? Or have any evidence of their secret agenda? Because I don't really recognise myself your description (though I would like it if everyone stopped eating Cow )

Yes, in an indirect way, the Lady that stands for the Green Party in my Constituency lives close by, she's regularly in the local Papers spouting her beliefs and Martyrdom (such as the short Prison sentences she has recieved when away on Protest, such as Newbury by-pass, Greenham Common, Nuclear Missile bases)

I see her regularly in my local, expensive, Corner shop (she won't shop in Chain Supermarkets) and she dissaproves of People holidaying abroad.

Alright, maybe I went a bit far with the 'Vegan/Mudhut' existence, but I do know that the Greens want to Tax just about everything to the Hilt, they're never satisfied with the annual Government Budget, all they will do is aleniate ordinary working people on ordinary working wages, their policies won't affect the Rich, it's no wonder they hardly garner any Votes at Elections

[Marky B]

Originally Posted by batman I would like it if fewer people ate steak .... 'cos that would mean there'd be more for me!

Looks nice enough to grill (well done for me),with chips and salad.
Ta Ta
Marky B

[CaptainWaggett]

Originally Posted by Mark O Yes, in an indirect way, the Lady that stands for the Green Party in my Constituency lives close by, she's regularly in the local Papers spouting her beliefs and Martyrdom (such as the short Prison sentences she has recieved when away on Protest, such as Newbury by-pass, Greenham Common, Nuclear Missile bases) I see her regularly in my local, expensive, Corner shop (she won't shop in Chain Supermarkets) and she dissaproves of People holidaying abroad. Alright, maybe I went a bit far with the 'Vegan/Mudhut' existence, but I do know that the Greens want to Tax just about everything to the Hilt, they're never satisfied with the annual Government Budget, all they will do is aleniate ordinary working people on ordinary working wages, their policies won't affect the Rich, it's no wonder they hardly garner any Votes at Elections

All fairly mainstream views in my circle

[DB7]

We've been pouring more CO2 into the atmosphere and the global temperature has been rising; whether that's cause and effect you could debate but it's increasingly likely.

Heed my warning or there'll be more concerts like Live Earth.

[Mark O]

Originally Posted by batman I would like it if fewer people ate steak .... 'cos that would mean there'd be more for me!

Me too Bats!........I particularly like the Irish Steak available in Tesco (oops! Carbon footprints, the Tesco terror!)

Plus Steak is much Cheaper in this day and age, I recall growing up it was an expensive and rare treat to have a Steak!

I think this thread could turn into a lengthy and interesting one, as long as no one minds me asking that we refrain from any personal attacks before they start!

I always like to see both sides of any issue/arguement.......maybe some of our 'Green' members could tell us, as individuals, what we can do to do our little bit to stem 'Global warming'?