batman

1. Regarding JFK, It has been proved so many times that it's impossible to fire off as many shots that LHO is said to have done with the rifle of that day.

2. The fatal shot that killed JFK must have come from the front as it's been seen so many times that his head whips back from the impact. If some hits you from behind, do you throw your head backwards???? I don't think so.
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1. In the book I mentioned earlier, Case Closed, a firearms expert proved that it can be done using an identical rifle to LHO's.

2. If you are shot through the back of the head, the explosion as the bullet exits the front of the head will force the head backwards.

I wish I had claws.

christoph404

I saw that news clip with the two loonie "acoustics experts" listening to a scrambled audio tape with echo on it and all sorts of muffled pops and crackles." there it is! that crackle, that hissy crackle, that was a gun shot wasn't it....I think so, sure sounded like one" It made me laugh to be honest but I think people are determined to believe what they want to believe. Regarding the fact that JFKs head whips back, well as I said in my earlier post you really have to be an expert in ballistics and physics, backed up with experimentation to determine the recoil direction of a bullet wound to the back of the head of a man sitting in a limo, and apparently according to experts in this field it would be quite normal for the recoil to be in the same direction as where the bullet came from. But again, its easy to dismiss facts, expert analysis and scientific evidence in favor of ill informed speculation and deduction to support the crazy conspiracy claims. It becomes similar to a faith or religion and no amount of reasoning or evidence will change the minds of some people. Its a mad world for sure.

christoph404

Being able to fire off the shots in that amount of time was also proved by the Warren Commision at the time with the actual rifle Oswald used because he left it at the scene and it was recovered, and it has since been demonstrated in TV documenatries that it is in fact possible to fire off the shots in the time given, another conspiracy myth that is often quoted as fact easily dismissed. And of course, the exit wound of a high velocity rifle bullet is going to cause one hell of an explosion,forcing the head backwards,for fear of being too graphic a human skull is a pressurised sphere, who's to say what happens when its hit by a bullet, a ballistics expert perhaps? It would seem logical to me that JFKs head would be thrown back, but Im no expert on ballistics but isn't it amazing how so many conspiracy theorists who know nothing about ballistics etc feel qualified to make deductions on this point.

Marky B

When I used to write quizzes,the assassination of JFK was a good for source for questions:

"Which infamous incident was catpured on a home movie camera belong to Abraham Zapruder."

"Who was arrested and charged for the murder of patrolman Officer JD Tippett on 22 November 1963." Despite the clue in the date,a few got it wrong.

"The Warren Commision was launched as an investigation into which incident."

This is a local one:"Who was appearing at the Globe Theatre in Stockton on the night (GMT) John F Kennedy was assassinated." The answer was the Beatles.

"Which cult tv series began on 24 November 1963,the day after JFK's assassination." Dr Who

"On what day of the week was 23 November 1963." Friday

And here is something else.

ABRAHAM LINCOLN WAS ELECTED TO CONGRESS IN 1846.
JOHN F KENNEDY WAS ELECTED TO CONGREE IN 1946.
LINCOLN WAS ELECTED THE 16TH PRESIDENT OF THE USA ON NOVEMBER 6 1860.
KENNEDY WAS ELECTED THE 35TH PRESIDENT OF THE USA ON NOVEMBER 8 1960.
BOTH WERE SUCCEEDED BY TWO SOUTHERNERS CALLED JOHNSON:ANDREW JOHNSON WAS BORN IN 1808;LYNDON BAINES JOHNSON WAS BORN IN 1908.
JOHN WILKES BOOTH WAS BORN IN 1838.
LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS BORN IN 1939. BOTH WERE SOUTHERNERS AND BOTH WERE SHOT BEFORE THEY WERE TRIED.
BOOTH COMMITTED THE CRIME IN A THEATRE AND THEN RAN INTO A BARN.
OSWALD PULLED THE TRIGGER FROM A WAREHOUSE AND RAN INTO A THEATRE (a movie theatre).
LINCOLN AND KENNEDY WERE BOTH CIVILS RIGHTS CAMPAIGNERS,AND BOTH WERE SHOT ON A FRIDAY IN THE COMPANY OF THEIR WIVES.
LINCOLN WAS SHOT IN THE FORD THEATRE. KENNEDY WAS SHOT IN A FORD LINCOLN.
KENNEDY HAD A SECRETARY CALLED EVELYN LINCOLN,WHO STRONGLY ADVISED JFK NOT TO GO TO DALLAS.
Ta Ta
Marky B

I once shot an elephant in my pyjamas - how he got in my pyjamas,I'll never know

penfold

I would have thought that if a bullet hit the motor function area of the brain, all sorts of involuntary muscular movements - backwards, forwards, sideways...would result in the split second before death...

Bit of a Bay Window, what??

CaptainWaggett

I laughed at the moon landing conpiracy theory until I read this

mariocki

I'll lay my cards on the table and say that I don't believe that LHO was a lone assassin but having read many books around the subject it's easy to be swayed one way or the other. Even long-time researchers like Gary Mack, once very much a conspiracy theorist, is now on the side of the single bullet theory.

The issue of the time span of the shots is an interesting one with one expert saying that a Mannlicher-Carcano could not be fired 3 times and re-loaded twice in the time shown by the Zapruder film. Another expert says it can be done and has demonstrated it on film but this obviously depends on LHO's expertise as a shot. Again, one researcher says that Oswald was a 'sharpshooter' in the army, producing documentary evidence to back up the claim whereas another has produced eyewitness testimony from soldiers who served with LHO that he suffered from 'Granny's Drawers,' a less than complimentary term for a soldiers shooting ability. One thing that has troubled me is that when you see the Zapruder film you can see how much damage the head shot at frame 312 does but that doesn't seem to be the same with the earlier 'magic' bullet. Here's a link to the film, it's not pleasant viewing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaUtS2Gf6ws

Apart from the events in Dealey Plaza, my main problem with the official version is what happened subsequently at Parkland Hospital, on Airforce One and at Bethesda Naval Hospital. For the 'magic' bullet to be found, apparently pristine after having passed through JFK's throat, Connally's chest, knee and wrist, on a stretcher in a corridor wouldn't make it into a film script. Test firing a similar rifle later into only a goat carcass produced a considerably more distressed bullet.

Of the 16 (I think) doctors who saw JFK's body, none of them described the wounds as those seen in the official autopsy photos and all described the head wound as being at the top right rear of the head. Dr Peters described it as a 7cm wound something which isn't evident in the official photos. The coffin the body was placed in and transported on Airforce One was not the one that the body was removed from in Washington and the doctor who conducted the autopsy apparently had no previous experience of such a procedure. (for the most important autopsy in history??) The remaining piece of JFK's brain was removed but the path of the bullet was not tracked as would be usual in any normal murder case, and subsequently went missing.

At the end of the day, we're never going to know. Like the identity of Jack The Ripper, there are so many different theories and a case can be made for most of them. Many a time I've finished a Ripper book and thought,'So, that's definitely who it was' only to be swayed by a another book later on. It's fun thinking about it though

You crazy idiots - my name's McGill!

Joenoir

They should have taken you along so that they had conclusive photographic evidence - somebody said it was the moon!

Start every day with a smile and get it over with.

Joenoir

Damn it! I'm having second thoughts now!

Start every day with a smile and get it over with.

Steve Crook

I laughed at that

And if anyone is still confused by lunar shadows, have a look at the shows of the arrows in the target in my avatar. How come the shadows are all at different angles? It must be faked

Steve

christoph404

Certainly sheds a new light on the whole thing though Im not entirely convinced by the "no stars " argument but the rest is fairly plausible.

davidb

all those moon landing never happened theories have been disproved over the years ,yet every so often they resurface ,im sure patrick mower presented a sky at night once debunking them ,

mariocki

Patrick Mower? What does he know?!!

You crazy idiots - my name's McGill!

davidb

drat , i had someone else down for spotting the deliberate mistake first !

Moor Larkin

There's some crazy guy in New Mexico or somewhere who's spent thirty years firing a laser at the moon and then convincing himself that it's been reflected to him by some little piece of shiny metal the non-existent astronauts left behind.

Boy, is he going to be pissed when he finds out!......