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Old 29-05-2008, 07:14 AM
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I am not a great fan of tennis and although most of our players are shite, we have had one or two good ones over the years. Whether you like him or loathe him, Tim Henman was very popular, but this new chappie, Andy Murray, just seems to me to be a selfish, miserable git.

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Many tennis players seem to have ego problems.

Leyton Hewitt is an excellent Australian tennis player but he is despised by most Aussies for his outlandish behavior and oversized ego.

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He comes across as having a personality bypass, got a real chip on his shoulder even Tim Henman calls him a miserable git. As for talent, he does, on occasions, have a very good serve which at first I thought would give him that extra edge to make it as a top player, but alas I don't think he will be better than average.

When you think of players like Djokovic who is younger than Murray and already winning major tournaments, then you soon realise AM is unlikely to really compete consistently.

Getting rid of Coaches, like he does, smacks of it always being someone else's fault not his own. Sounds like another well known Scot out of his depth.
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He comes across as having a personality bypass, got a real chip on his shoulder even Tim Henman calls him a miserable git. As for talent, he does, on occasions, have a very good serve which at first I thought would give him that extra edge to make it as a top player, but alas I don't think he will be better than average.

When you think of players like Djokovic who is younger than Murray and already winning major tournaments, then you soon realise AM is unlikely to really compete consistently.

Getting rid of Coaches, like he does, smacks of it always being someone else's fault not his own. Sounds like another well known Scot out of his depth.
Thanks for that MP. Henman always comes across as a nice chap so if he thinks Murray is a miserable git too that's good enough for me. It was reading about how many coaches he had got rid of that prompted me to ask the question. He does seem to be someone who doesn't appreciate his good fortune. Didn't his brother win the Wimbledon Mixed Doubles?

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Many tennis players seem to have ego problems.

Leyton Hewitt is an excellent Australian tennis player but he is despised by most Aussies for his outlandish behavior and oversized ego.

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Hewitt's a yob!

From what iv'e seen of Murray he seems your archetypal dour Scot!!
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He comes across as having a personality bypass, got a real chip on his shoulder even Tim Henman calls him a miserable git. As for talent, he does, on occasions, have a very good serve which at first I thought would give him that extra edge to make it as a top player, but alas I don't think he will be better than average.

When you think of players like Djokovic who is younger than Murray and already winning major tournaments, then you soon realise AM is unlikely to really compete consistently.

Getting rid of Coaches, like he does, smacks of it always being someone else's fault not his own. Sounds like another well known Scot out of his depth.
Don't suppose it would occur to you that Scots people might feel offended by that comment!! Andy Murray is 21 years old and I think he is ranked no 10 in the world at the moment. Didn't Murray win the Australian Open in 2007? I think he has won four major titles at least and has defeated world no 1 Roger Fedderer twice. I think thats not bad considering 2007 saw him struggling with a wrist and knee injury. I think you are being a little unfair by saying he is "another well known Scot out of his depth" Maybe he should just scurry back to Dunblane and let the posh English boys show him how its done! I think he is a young British Tennis player at the beginning of his career who is showing a lot of potential and promise. Tim Henmann was 24 when he reached his first Wimbledon semi final, why write off Murray at this stage in his career?
If the other well known Scot you might be alluding to is Gordon Brown, well yes...he is out of his depth and a bit of a fool but I don't think that is particular to being Scottish! I know one thing that Andy Murrray gets cheesed off and moody about, and thats constantly being refered to as English rather than British or Scottish!

But to get back to the original question, is he a misereable git? It would seem that he is very serious and deadpan and like most 21 year old young men possibly a little arrogant. Bjon Borg was known as the Ice Berg because he was so cold an emotionless and McEnroe was denied membership of Queens Club because of his on court antics. I think tennis lost those kinds of personalities a long time ago and Murray is part of the new generation of emotionless deadpan machine like tennis players. I used to love watching Wimbledon but haven't bothered for years, I don't find it exciting as it was in the heady days of Connors and Agasi and others. I think in modern tennis there is no time for personality or emotion and thats a shame I think. So..aye he seems a bit of a misereable git but he's a good tennis player!
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Roger Federer won the 2007 Aussie Open .... Murray has never reached a Grand Slam Final. Perhaps that's why he is so miserable!

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When England (football team) played a match against a team which were not part of the British Isles,I believe Andy Murray openly supported the other team.
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When England (football team) played a match against a team which were not part of the British Isles,I believe Andy Murray openly supported the other team.
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He was asked by a journo if he would be supporting England in the world cup football tournament, I think Scottish people in the public eye, sporting or not, just get cheesed off with stupid questions like that and he reacted to the stupidity of the journo who asked him. His attitude is that he is not English so is not obliged to support the England football or rugby team if he doesn't want to and I think that is fair enough.Many people wrongly interpret that view as being anti English, especially certain sections of the tabloid press who went looking for stories like that during the World Cup just to show how "anti English" those awful Scots are! It's all a load of old rubbish! On an American sports program he was referred to as being English by the commentator, Murray corrected him by saying "Im not English, Im Scottish but I am proud to be both British and Scottish". I would say most English people couldn't give two hoots as to how well ( or badly in most cases )the Scottish national football or rugby team does and I think the Scots just get cheesed off that many people in England feel that the Scots have a duty to support the England football team. Most people in Scotland couldn't give two hoots one way or the other but if they are going to get asked the question then the person who is asking should not feel too upset or hurt if they receive a sarcastic response. Im a Scot and I was supporting England in the last world cup but if someone asked me the same question put to Murray, in a challenging way, like there is only one acceptable answer, I might be inclined to also give a sarcastic response just because I resent the judgemental nature of the whole "Scots don't support the England Football team" issue.
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When England (football team) played a match against a team which were not part of the British Isles,I believe Andy Murray openly supported the other team.
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Nowt wrong with that Marky..........anyone but the Jocks................ I'm English and proud, not British, ENGLISH! St.Georges cross not the Union flag.

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Bats, give me your address and I'll get Chris and Craig to pop around and help you with a flying kilometre (bike optional)


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From what iv'e seen of Murray he seems your archetypal dour Scot!!
Indeed he is. Dour faced, tight arsed get. Its no wonder Scotland gets a bad name with tossers like this representing us.
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