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Old 24-07-2008, 06:54 PM
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All newspapers are written by people with their own agenda, regardless of their particular politics et al, and are therefore worthless.
I'd have to agree. There would be certain amount of spin - be it from the editor or the state - on anything printed, even if it professed to be the unadultered facts.

All media is indeed, worthless.


But they do love themselves and regard themselves as an indespensible part of our daily lives - grrrrr


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Old 24-07-2008, 07:52 PM
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No, we recieve three free papers a week, and a couple of other freebies once a Month.......that's enough for the local goings on!

I won't touch the local daily Evening paper, the Evening Echo, as it's an "we like to stir it" rag on a par with The Sun

As many other people I've gone off the Daily Mail in recent years (likes to stir it as well!) though I may purchase it on a Friday purely for Baz Bamigboye's Entertainment pages and Movie reviews

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Old 24-07-2008, 08:08 PM
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Our regional paper has a habit of dragging up some real dirt on people for ..not particularly severe crimes..I think that is pretty cruel..it's not giving them the chance to start afresh.

Our local paper is pretty good - they have the interests of the local people very much at heart, I think and never seem to sensationalise.

The Guardian - I buy it - I like a lot of it. But I am well aware of it's pitfalls - they do make far too many 'mistakes' that need to be corrected later - by which time the damage is done and printing pics of desperate refugees next to articles about £1000 handbags does jar with most people I think.

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Old 27-07-2008, 09:21 PM
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All newspapers are written by people with their own agenda, regardless of their particular politics et al, and are therefore worthless.
Not all. You may have had a bad experience with somebody from The Guardian, but there is no individual nor organisation behind the paper that stands to gain from the way it reports or doesn't report things.

The Scott Trust.

The Trust was created in 1936 to safeguard the journalistic freedom and liberal values of the Guardian. Its core purpose is to preserve the financial and editorial independence of the Guardian


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Since I've had access to the internet I see no reason to buy a newspaper as I get all my news etc from news sites.
Aside from the pleasure to be gained from sitting in your favourite chair, or in the garden, or on the bog while reading the paper, on-line versions are not necessarily of the same content.

Even if every item in the paper was available on-line and in a full version one could miss it.

In turning a page in the paper one may be drawn to a photo or headline and there could be the name of a writer you may admire. The sub heading and opening paragraph is clear and one may decide to read on having seen any of these aspects. In the on-line version, there will be just a few words in a clickable link and it won't draw you to the article in the same way.

What about when the site is down or your computer is running slow? You could come back to it but you may forget or be unable to find it again. What if you can't even get on the computer because someone else is on it?


I wonder, do you not bother with TV because it can be watched on-line? Do you not bother with books because you can read them on the internet? Do you decide not to go to the pub and chat with your mates because you can log on to a forum instead or go in a chatroom?

Each to his own of course; news sites are a great resource. But please, let's not pretend that news sites can replace the newspaper any more than a chatroom can replace conversation.
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Old 27-07-2008, 10:07 PM
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Our local, The Daily Progress has been known to many of us, for at least 30 years as The Regress. I don't read it, except occasionally (on line) when I read the obituary of a friend, or when something particularly sensational has occured. It is the only paper I know of that has a stated policy of putting local news in the first section and the world and national news in section 2—you figure, as they say here!

When I was last in England, I read The Independent and thoroughly enjoyed it. My mother liked The Telegraph. I found it far too conservative.

In the States the closest we come to a national paper is the trio of The Washington Post which I take and enjoy; The New York Times which I see on a fairly frequent basis, and The Wall Street Journal which is a very good paper, with great music reviews on occasion!
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Old 27-07-2008, 11:48 PM
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When I was last in England, I read The Independent and thoroughly enjoyed it. My mother liked The Telegraph. I found it far too conservative.
Hence it being known as The Torygraph.
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Old 28-07-2008, 12:54 AM
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Apparently, this is a worldwide problem, for the newspapers. Our local rag, The Arizona Republic (or, as we rightwingers like to call it, The Repugnant), used to be a good paper, when they kept their opinions to the editorial page. Now, everything is so slanted, it's ridiculous. If something of importance pops up in the community that doesn't agree with their slant, they either don't print it or bury it in the back section.

This is evident in the border situation which some of you might know we have in Arizona. We have the 'Toughest Sheriff in the World,' or at least in the United States, and the Republic is doing everything they can to come up with something on him.

Anyway, the only time I read it is on Sundays, when I see my sister, and then it is mainly the obituaries to see whom I have survived, to date.
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Old 28-07-2008, 05:48 AM
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I live on the border of two reasonably informative local papers.I agree you do get more in depth information on some subjects than on line and you can also skim over the bits that are not of interest.
Local flower shows or events may not make for startling news but coverage hopefully can represent the efforts made by individuals and groups .
Reading both the local papers makes you realise just how much does go on around you- good and bad. You can read a paper anywhere/time.
That said the local BBC on line is always worth a quick scan. Many locals are owned by groups such as Trinity Mirror so I don't doubt that a little bit of bias can creep down to ground level.
On a national level I always try to read a paper that I do not always agree with.
I get fed up with the constant political aspects of the press as I am sure many others do.
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Our local paper, Nottingham Evening Post, drags up every fight, stabbing, drug seiziure and gangland attribute going. People hate criminals but get off on it.
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We get the Hartlepool Mail (as we are from Hartlepool) and the Evening Gazette. I sometimes get the Northern Echo on a Wednesday,mainly for the jobs section,and when I see it,the Whitby Gazette - because I like Whitby.
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Our local 'paper contains more doom and gloom than the Nationals. It's written by people who have no command of the English language and it's pretty awful.

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Old 28-07-2008, 06:21 PM
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Religiously! I purchase the Liphook Herald every week, admittedly the Shots footy match report helps clinch the deal
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