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Old 23-08-2007, 01:33 PM
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I'm still trying to figure out how living in tents, working outside on this planet's surface and paying for one's food is "cruel and unusual". I think a few humans have done this before. I think a few more will do it in the future.
To most people these days, living in a tent is certainly unusual and anything where they are deprived of their MTV & Macdonalds counts as cruel

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I was just watching some of The Boys (1962) as I had my lunch.
Dudley Sutton and a gang of other "teenaged ruffians" are accused of stabbing a nightwatchman at a garage and stealing the cash box. In the court the prosecution evidence mounts up against them but then the defence shows it was all circumstantial and it was just because people had seen the boys messing about and assumed that they were out for an evening's trouble. When the robbery and stabbing took place, everyone assumed that it was The Boys that had done it but they just happened to be in the vicinity and attracting a lot of attention. They were really quite nice boys. Hard working, just looking for a bit of (lawful) entertainment on a quiet Thursday.

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If I remember rightly Dudley Sutton's character was actually proved to be guilty of the murder and sentenced to death. So the 'circumstantial evidence' was proved correct in his case.

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Old 23-08-2007, 04:06 PM
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If I remember rightly Dudley Sutton's character was actually proved to be guilty of the murder and sentenced to death. So the 'circumstantial evidence' was proved correct in his case.

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Well, it was accepted as correct when he was browbeaten into a confession

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Old 23-08-2007, 04:24 PM
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Well, it was accepted as correct when he was browbeaten into a confession

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The Violent Incident

Scene 2: The police arrive.

Victim: He hit me officer, three people saw him do it.
Policeman: Did you do it?
Suspect: No.
Policeman: Are you sure?
Suspect: Yeah.
Policeman: All right, you can go.

Suspect leaves the scene. Policeman turns to Victim.

Victim: Is that it, aren't you going to question him anymore?
Policeman: Oh no, sir, can't do that, he might get upset and confess. Now, sir, can you tell me exactly why you are walking around in public with that red liquid dribbling down your face. Are you not aware that it contravenes Section 47 of the ......

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Old 23-08-2007, 07:03 PM
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The Violent Incident

Scene 2: The police arrive.

Victim: He hit me officer, three people saw him do it.
Policeman: Did you do it?
Suspect: No.
Policeman: Are you sure?
Suspect: Yeah.
Policeman: All right, you can go.

Suspect leaves the scene. Policeman turns to Victim.

Victim: Is that it, aren't you going to question him anymore?
Policeman: Oh no, sir, can't do that, he might get upset and confess. Now, sir, can you tell me exactly why you are walking around in public with that red liquid dribbling down your face. Are you not aware that it contravenes Section 47 of the ......

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Exactly. You'd contravene the suspect's human rights if you questioned them any more. And of course the victim doesn't have any rights, as the Daily Hate Mail is always telling us

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Old 23-08-2007, 07:07 PM
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Exactly. You'd contravene the suspect's human rights if you questioned them any more. And of course the victim doesn't have any rights, as the Daily Hate Mail is always telling us

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I wouldn't know about that, I don't read newspapers, too many bloody statistics in them .

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Sadly gun crime raises it's head again this evening. 11-year-old killed by a drive-by BMX.

The mind boggles.
Sad but true, since hand guns were banned there have been more shootings using hand guns than ever before!

In the 40s and 50s many hand guns used in criminal activity were WW2 souvenirs brought home by servicemen, in the 00s it appears to be former Soviet Bloc/new EC member countries just wandering into the UK with them whilst the few remaining Customs and Excise people search day trippers' cars for illicit cans of lager and cigarettes!

The government prefer to focus on a ban on smoking in public places rather than introduce a ban on murder in public places!
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Default 5 Boys Guilty of Stoning a Man to Death
Ernest Norton was hit on the head by stones at least twice

Five boys have been found guilty of killing a father of two as he played cricket with his teenage son.
Ernest Norton, 67, suffered a heart attack in Erith, south-east London, when he was pelted with stones and sticks by the group.
An Old Bailey jury heard Mr Norton was hit on the head at least twice.
The boys, now aged between 12 and 14, were found guilty of manslaughter and violent disorder. They will be sentenced on 19 October.
Mr Norton had set up stumps with his 17-year-old son James in a tennis court outside Erith Leisure Centre in February 2006 to practise bowling.

But they were approached by up to 20 youths who began shouting abuse including, "rubbish bowler" and "go back to the old people's home".


Mr Norton tried to scare them off but they threw stones, rocks and pieces of wood at him and he collapsed bleeding heavily.
"We were just keeping ourselves to ourselves," James Norton told the court.
"It just seemed they wanted to pick on someone."
James and his mother Linda watched as an off-duty police officer tried to resuscitate Mr Norton but without success.
The court heard Mr Norton underwent a triple heart bypass operation in 1977, but since then had enjoyed a "fit and active" lifestyle.

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David Fisher QC, prosecuting, told the jury: "This was a completely unnecessary, pointless and random attack."
He said "the stress and trauma of abuse and a physical attack would make him vulnerable to a heart attack".
The father and son were playing cricket in the tennis court


"Their youth is no defence. They were quite old enough to know that to abuse Ernest Norton and his son was wrong and that to throw stones and pieces of wood at them was wrong."
He added: "I expect they deeply regret the death and no doubt did not intend that he should die.
"But it was their joint course of conduct, quite probably with others, that caused his death."
Earlier in the day the boys, armed with a baseball bat, had met another group of youths for a fight, the court heard.
Only one of the accused, now aged 14, gave evidence at the trial. He admitted spitting at Mr Norton and that it was "stupid", "revolting" and "appalling".
He said he was only throwing stones to try to knock over stumps and wreck the cricket game, for a "bit of fun".

He added the boys had ended up at the leisure centre because there was "nothing else to do".
Crown Prosecution Service lawyer Damaris Lakin said: "This case highlights the need for young people in gangs who engage in anti-social behaviour to accept responsibility for the consequences of their criminal activities."
After the case, Mrs Norton left the court with her sister Margaret Barraclough, 70.
Mrs Barraclough said: "We now hope for closure and to get on with our lives." Det Ch Insp Phil Adams said: "Nobody likes to see children standing in the dock at the Old Bailey, crying, having been convicted of manslaughter. "However your mind must then turn to Mr Norton's family. They have lost a father, a husband and a loved one, and we must not forget that."
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Five boys have been found guilty of killing a father of two as he played cricket with his teenage son.
And your reason for posting this is ...?

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And your reason for posting this is ...?

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None at all, so you'd better delete it in case you, Lady Lois or anyone else objects!
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I was cleaning some old threads a few weeks ago and if I saw that once - I saw it 100 times!
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I used to use different forum software, and when importing the posts from the (corrupted) forum a number of path and html errors became evident.

Every so often I'll tidy one up like the thread below:
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I used to use different forum software, and when importing the posts from the (corrupted) forum a number of path and html errors became evident.

Every so often I'll tidy one up like the thread below:
http://www.britmovie.co.uk/forums/ge...u-do-solo.html

By the time you reach post 10 all should become clear.
(iirc johnjackgilbert was also Lady Lois)
Pleasant memories, those were the days! I'll have to see if I can find my James Whale hat again!
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