veel03

just saw Get Carter for £3!!! in wh smiths.

Bilmo

Darn it! And to think I bought mine from a charity shop for 50p!!

ChristineCB

Does someone out there prefer the later Stallone version to the original?

Why?

Or why not?

I saw both within a day of each other - I think I saw the Stallone version first and was unimpressed, but decided to see why the hue and cry was strongly protesting in favor of the original.

I think I just like Michael Caine more in just about everything, but I'm not sure I can give a lot of other and more concrete reasons for my preference.

Fellwanderer

Wouldn't even bother watching the remake if I was paid.

The original is a great film. The remake's a remake - and it's got Stallone in it. Need I say more?

All the best
FELL

A signature is no substitute for a life

batman

the remake is totally devoid of intelligence and, for want of a better word, class
avoid!!!

"Boom boom a baby .... Banham Zoo .... Banana pants! Hahahaha"

A Pemberton

Michael Caine can act, thats concrete enough for me,Stallone(with maybe the exception of COP LAND) is no more than a for want of a better quote "a one trick pony"!

Ljelja

I often say: Thanx goodness for remakes! They serve as a free ad for the bygone era and the work of art concerned, because they reveal the supremacy of the so-called original. Though, one might feel sorry for the money thrown in the wind...

veel03

Quote from DB7 from 1/11/04:

'Get Carter' voted worse remake

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STALLONE'S CARTER IS TOP FLOP Nov 1 2004







GET Carter starring Sylvester Stallone has been named the worst remake in film history.

The 2000 version of the 1971 Michael Caine classic beat Gus Van Sant's 1998 rehash of the Hitchcock masterpiece Psycho in a poll of 2,000 fans.

This year's Alfie, starring Jude Law in a role also made famous by Caine, came sixth in the survey by DVD rental firm ScreenSelect.co.uk.

The firm's founder, Alex Chesterman, said: "It proves you just can't beat Michael Caine."

He added: "Time after time, remakes fail to sparkle like the originals.

"The rehashed productions trade off fond memories of much-loved films."

ChristineCB

So right you are. Before I'd left my chair, I was hearing grumblings of "This is a disaster compared to the original..." and that was perhaps the most polite and kind remark out of the next 50 I heard.

So I watched Michael Caine's tape the next day. I was so much more impressed with the degree of sympathies I had with Caine, and my total lack of memory of similar feelings for any character in the Stallone remake.

I didn't care about any character, mission, degree of brotherly love, etc., in the remake. In the original, I found it easy to choose sides and root against the bad guy.

Ljelja has stated the silver-lining quality to the Remakes.

Ljelja

Something just crossed my mind...I think it was Jean Renoir who said he didn't see the meaning in naming a remake as such, since the very nature of film makes each really an original in itself, no matter if the inspiration came from the previous film or book...Singer repeated this in his "Three Philosopher Filmmakers" and gave a nice comparison through the example of Hitchcocks Psycho and the one of Gus Van Sant. While one could judge the remake against the original, it should also be considered upon the general criteria films have been judged or criticized upon.

A hard act to follow...each film has its unmistakable charisma. It's difficult to stay on the same track, one always gets a product that's its own, while people expect to get the same feeling. So with the Carter...Michael Caine is Michael Caine, Stallone is Stallone as Stephen Kay isn't Mike Hodges. Film is and should be about authorship.

Fellwanderer

That'll still make Stallone's version the pits.

All the best
FELL

A signature is no substitute for a life

Ljelja

By all means. I forgot to bring out my conclusion!

Moor Larkin

Jackie?



To be fair, Stallone's effort wasn't entirely bad. I thought he might pull off a Cop Land for a while but the last twenty minutes went downhill rapidly, along with his car, into the sunset..... Poor rich old Sly.

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ChristineCB

Ljelja, there's a running battle on Van Sant's tragic waste of our precious natural resources by his plagerous mechanical re-do of PSYCHO. I haven't seen an argument presented that makes me tolerant or less dismissive.

Dogs and fire hydrants represent greater creativity.

Ljelja

Yes, yes. By all means, that is exactly what Singer concluded. I see now I haven't maid my point too clear. Though remakes usually miss in remaking, they could be approached on a sort of single-value basis.