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    Senior Member Country: UK wellendcanons's Avatar
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    The local north west news has reported this morning that jobs, public services and transport are forcast to be at their worst here in the north west.



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    name='wellendcanons' timestamp='1287553853' post='484414']

    The local north west news has reported this morning that jobs, public services and transport are forcast to be at their worst here in the north west.



    wec


    Wherever the greatest impact is felt there is no doubt it will effect the ones most vulnerable. All this talk of taking people off of invalidity benefit and out the benefits system at a time when unemployment will sky rocket through government cuts, where will the jobs come from. Successive governments have concentrated the economic growth of this country into the service and financial industries, the biggest uses of service industries is government, local and national, with severe cuts from them and the continuing contraction of jobs in the financial industries, where is the kick the economy so desperatley needs going to come from ?

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    There do need to be some cuts to some bloated government departments and I won't miss some quangos.



    But there needs to be a stimulus for economic growth and casino banking/ease of credit should be tightened up.



    Tbh, crisis or not, the Tories were always going to hammer the poor and do nothing about the rich evading £15bn in taxes (15x the much heralded benefit fraud).

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    As a public sector parasite, I'm heartily looking forward to getting a good squdging today!



    Adult Education? Boo!

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    Senior Member Country: UK CaptainWaggett's Avatar
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    Fantastic - I get to work for a year longer than I'd anitcipated Well, I wouldn't know what to do with myself if I was retired anyway (especially since there won't be any more boring old libraries or evening classes or sports centres left)

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    name='CaptainWaggett' timestamp='1287577458' post='484511']

    Fantastic - I get to work for a year longer than I'd anitcipated Well, I wouldn't know what to do with myself if I was retired anyway (especially since there won't be any more boring old libraries or evening classes or sports centres left)




    Open a dvd shop online Cap, I'm sure you'd get a lot of rarities in the basket




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    Senior Member Country: UK CaptainWaggett's Avatar
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    name='moonfleet' timestamp='1287577859' post='484513']

    Open a dvd shop online Cap, I'm sure you'd get a lot of rarities in the basket








    Shouldn't you be out there rioting, Moon?

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    name='CaptainWaggett' timestamp='1287578212' post='484514']

    Shouldn't you be out there rioting, Moon?


    I've been there last Tuesday (or was it Wednesday ??), but today is resting day (which is as far sacré )

    And it was yesterday the last firework in streets because by today the retirement law should be adopted.

    But things may also continue a bit because it's not an ajusted law to groups of cases as women who didn't cotiser (to contribute ??) enough because they missed referencial working times by raising their child(s) home for example, or for people who have such hard physical /and/or dangerous (for the health) jobs that they should stop working earlier than some others... BUT we're not in an ideal world, are we ??







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    Senior Member Country: Vatican Sgt Sunshine's Avatar
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    Thank God Civil Servants can still retire at 60........My Google countdown clock is down to 70,690 hours already...

    Cheers

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    name='CaptainWaggett' timestamp='1287577458' post='484511']

    Fantastic - I get to work for a year longer than I'd anitcipated Well, I wouldn't know what to do with myself if I was retired anyway (especially since there won't be any more boring old libraries or evening classes or sports centres left)
    They were initially talking about half a million public sector jobs being lost. That link says 490,000. Does that mean you're one of the 10,000 that's been saved?



    As for what to do when you're fully retired, I've got a load of books/videos/DVDs that need to be properly catalogued



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    Senior Member Country: UK CaptainWaggett's Avatar
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    name='Steve Crook' timestamp='1287581396' post='484531']

    They were initially talking about half a million public sector jobs being lost. That link says 490,000. Does that mean you're one of the 10,000 that's been saved?



    As for what to do when you're fully retired, I've got a load of books/videos/DVDs that need to be properly catalogued



    Steve




    Well, it's all very confusing - will I be made redundant or will I have to work until I'm 103?

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    Well, it's all very confusing - will I be made redundant or will I have to work until I'm 103?



    Which would you prefer?

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    Senior Member Country: Great Britain Mark O's Avatar
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    Anyone would think it was only public sector employees that are victims of the recession, I wish I could retire at 60 with a gold-plated tax-payer funded pension, those of us in the private sector have been the victims of redundancy and job losses also.

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    name='Mark O' timestamp='1287611079' post='484690']

    Anyone would think it was only public sector employees that are victims of the recession, I wish I could retire at 60 with a gold-plated tax-payer funded pension, those of us in the private sector have been the victims of redundancy and job losses also.






    Surprisingly for Britmovie, a thread about public sector jobs hasn't actually gone off-topic

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    Senior Member Country: UK wellendcanons's Avatar
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    name='DB7' timestamp='1287560546' post='484426']

    There do need to be some cuts to some bloated government departments and I won't miss some quangos.



    But there needs to be a stimulus for economic growth and casino banking/ease of credit should be tightened up.



    Tbh, crisis or not, the Tories were always going to hammer the poor and do nothing about the rich evading £15bn in taxes (15x the much heralded benefit fraud).




    Very true. I totally agree.



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    name='Mark O' timestamp='1287611079' post='484690']

    Anyone would think it was only public sector employees that are victims of the recession, I wish I could retire at 60 with a gold-plated tax-payer funded pension, those of us in the private sector have been the victims of redundancy and job losses also.




    I can see why you would say that Mark. Public sector workers have had a bad press with the multi-rich newspapers backing the government proposing to do the cuts. And to be fair there are people in the public sector who are excessively overpaid. But in reality it's not those who are being targeted so much as middle management and lower paid workers. Middle management may have to reapply for their posts and it seems there are likely to be redundancies and those that are unsuccessful in reapplying for their jobs will have to go. Of course that could be rumour at this stage. One thing you can guarantee is that those who should be facing cuts the most will suffer the least.



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    name='CaptainWaggett' timestamp='1287611430' post='484692']

    Surprisingly for Britmovie, a thread about public sector jobs hasn't actually gone off-topic


    moi go off topic?.......



    I genuinely hope your job is safe at the Library Cap'n, a lot of people aren't happy about this retirement age increase, I'm not really bothered about me but my sister turned 60 in August and has to wait until January for her state pension and bus pass and carry on working as this increase in age is phased in, I told her she was born just a few months too late!

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    Whatisitabout ??



    Do people will get fired ?? or is it the jobs of the ones who go for retirement that won't be "refilled" ??



    Anyway hope Captain W will keep her job, but maybe not until aged 103

    Hang on Cap

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    We lost our mobile public library ten years ago. Being a book sniffer I always thought it was probably the best job in the world, especially on a warm summer day here in our village. Two stops, one at either end, then on to the next hamlet a mile away. But it was axed and to be honest, nobody missed its service, only the passing of another rural institution. It is the same with the library in our nearest town. Infrequent use led to restricted opening hours, despite the librarian's attempt to encourage borrowers through the door by dressing the interior regularly in different themes. So the question is, do public libraries provide an essential service in our modern world? After all, they were conceived in a far less affluent age for people with a desire to read. A smallish newsagent in the same town tells me he sells up to £1,400 worth of magazines a month, but stopped stocking paper-back books because nobody would buy them. Are public libraries a thing of the past?



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    name='homeguard' timestamp='1287699602' post='484987']

    We lost our mobile public library ten years ago. Being a book sniffer I always thought it was probably the best job in the world, especially on a warm summer day here in our village. Two stops, one at either end, then on to the next hamlet a mile away. But it was axed and to be honest, nobody missed its service, only the passing of another rural institution. It is the same with the library in our nearest town. Infrequent use led to restricted opening hours, despite the librarian's attempt to encourage borrowers through the door by dressing the interior regularly in different themes. So the question is, do public libraries provide an essential service in our modern world? After all, they were conceived in a far less affluent age for people with a desire to read. A smallish newsagent in the same town tells me he sells up to £1,400 worth of magazines a month, but stopped stocking paper-back books because nobody would buy them. Are public libraries a thing of the past?



    regards,

    HG
    True, there are a lot more ways that people can get books nowadays. But they all cost money. When I was a penniless student, public libraries were a lifeline to a world that I would never otherwise have been able to afford. Not just for the books that they actually stocked but once I discovered the joys of inter-library loans and found that for a few pennies I could get hold of just about any book that had ever been published, my joy was boundless.



    As another example, there are people like my Mother, a well educated, literate, eclectic lady of 84 years who can't get about as much as she used to. She now relies on the mobile library that comes to her village in the wilds of West Wales. Whenever I go and see her she's always got a stack of library books that she's reading.



    Steve

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