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Old 04-12-2007, 04:11 PM
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Prior to seeing the film I thought the Kemps would be a disaster as the twins, but I thought they did OK. For me, the total disaster was Steven Berkoff as George Cornell. IMHO he was bloody awful with his face pulling, his cockernee accent, his shoulder shrugging and his silly walk ..... bad, bad, bad! It was quite a relief when Ronnie shot him.

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I agree, Berkoff's hysterical histionics are best saved for his stage performances! I thought the performances of the Kemp brothers were pretty good though considering they had very little if no acting experience. Looking at the film now their performances hold up well especially as their more familiar personnas of padded shouldered pop stars with Lady Di hairstyles are long forgotten memories! I think at the time people found it hard to associate the Kemp brothers in the roles of hardened east end gangsters on the basis of their pop star image but I think the boys did well!

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I agree, Berkoff's hysterical histionics are best saved for his stage performances! I thought the performances of the Kemp brothers were pretty good though considering they had very little if no acting experience. Looking at the film now their performances hold up well especially as their more familiar personnas of padded shouldered pop stars with Lady Di hairstyles are long forgotten memories! I think at the time people found it hard to associate the Kemp brothers in the roles of hardened east end gangsters on the basis of their pop star image but I think the boys did well!
I aree, but the best performance was given by Billie Whitelaw as their Mum.
Mind you, I expect no less from her

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Mark Strong,Chris Ecclestone and Daniel Craig all appeared together in???
Wasn't it some drama set up north ....

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Mark Strong,Chris Ecclestone and Daniel Craig all appeared together in???
Wasn't it some drama set up north ....

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And they were probably friends in it

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I agree, Berkoff's hysterical histionics are best saved for his stage performances!
I saw his one man shows 'The Tell Tale Heart' and 'Shakespeare's Villains' on stage a few years ago .... he was stunning. It's a shame his acting style rarely transfers well to the screen.

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Mark Strong,Chris Ecclestone and Daniel Craig all appeared together in???
as they did in the excellent tv drama series Our Friends In The North
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I aree, but the best performance was given by Billie Whitelaw as their Mum.
Mind you, I expect no less from her

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Steven Berkoff was very OTT in The Krays - but I still thought he did well.
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The Krays came from a poor and sordid world. The basement flat that Jack the Hat was murdered in was squalid and had damp it was not the flash place Medaks film made it out to be. But then again Chris Craig didn't run around the roof fireing his gun in the air but that didn't stop Medak putting it in "LET HIM HAVE IT". Both poor films for me due mostly to Peter Medaks Direction.
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Billie Whitelaw was wonderful, but the rest of the movie was sorta repressed... as if the producers were scared of the censors...or something!!

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Billie Whitelaw was wonderful, but the rest of the movie was sorta repressed... as if the producers were scared of the censors...or something!!
"Repressed"? In what way?
It had an 18 certificate in the UK. That's the highest you can get without being banned. It was an 'R' certificate in the States. That doesn't look like they were scared of the censors.

I thought it was the very ordinariness of some of it that made the rest of it more dramatic. Like the scene where Mrs Kray got all the big bad gangsters to check their shoes

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I don't get the repressed thing either .... it was restrained and not exploitational in the way that some gangster films are. I liked the ordinariness of it too, it showed that gangsterism is not always a glamourous way to earn a crust, despite the nightclubs and film star connections et al.

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OK, OK..."restrained" would probably be a better word (thanks, Batman!). I saw it on TV here in the USA about 2 years ago...with commercials. It's quite possible the commercial breaks screwed up the "flow" so to speak - and who knows what cuts were made...

Nevertheless, from the TV rendering that I saw, that vital sense of menace was unfortunately absent...

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It's quite possible the commercial breaks screwed up the "flow" so to speak - and who knows what cuts were made...
Nevertheless, from the TV rendering that I saw, that vital sense of menace was unfortunately absent...
I reckon you are right about the commercials. The film has a slow burn which leads relentlessly to the violent finale. Regular ad breaks would certainly mess that up. Try and get to see it 'uninterrupted', I think you might re-assess your initial view of the film.

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I'd hardly call the Chelsea Smile scene 'restrained'!
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