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How we made 2001

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  • How we made 2001

    The idea of a Cockney HAL made me laugh.

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/201...ey-kubrick-hal

    Nick

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    Somehow the vision of Arthur Mullard speaking his lines, comes into focus-not a pretty sight!

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      To celebrate fifty years of 2001, Sir Christopher Frayling presents a special Archive on 4 on Saturday 07/04/2018 20:00 - 21:00 BST.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09y6wg3

      Nick

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Nick Dando View Post
        To celebrate fifty years of 2001, Sir Christopher Frayling presents a special Archive on 4 on Saturday 07/04/2018 20:00 - 21:00 BST.

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09y6wg3

        Nick
        Thanks for the heads up.

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        • #5
          A new book is to be released on 19/04/2018.

          https://www.theguardian.com/film/201...-space-oydssey

          Nick

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          • #6
            Some thoughts on the film and its influence.

            https://www.theguardian.com/film/201...tanley-kubrick

            Nick

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Nick Dando View Post
              The idea of a Cockney HAL made me laugh.

              https://www.theguardian.com/film/201...ey-kubrick-hal

              Nick
              Eric Bristow, perhaps?

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              • #8
                Hal: How do you feel this morning, Dave?

                Now imagine it spoken by Arthur Mullard. Or Sid James (yes, in his version of cockney, even though he was actually South African). Or Phil Daniels (like the spoken parts of Blur's song "Park Life").

                We don't associate the cockney with a voice of authority or reassurance. Apparently researchers in the Advertising world have identified audience perceptions based on different regional accents (of the UK) and they hire voice actors for different projects based on how the audiences feel. For example, Scottish voices are thought to work well for Insurance and Banking services (canny with money). Cockneys are about tradespeople (DIY, Builders, Plumbers, Etc.). Foreign voices like French and Italian are for those exotic and attractive luxuries like fine dining, or holidays, or jewellery.

                In the last couple of decades the BBC sought to throw out their perceived role as Leader of RP, instead choosing to promote "representation" by giving announcer roles to those with regional accents. We are probably usewd to it by now, but in 1968, all the continuity announcers and radio presenters would have spoken with clear diction, warm tones and perfect pronunciation (think Nicholas Parsons). If anything, the American tones chosen for HAL probably sounded very infromal and "friendly" to audiences of the time, who were used to stiff, formal and aloof.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by StoneAgeMan View Post
                  Hal: How do you feel this morning, Dave?

                  Now imagine it spoken by Arthur Mullard. Or Sid James (yes, in his version of cockney, even though he was actually South African). Or Phil Daniels (like the spoken parts of Blur's song "Park Life").
                  Well, Daisy, Daisy... would fit!

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                  • #10
                    More from the Guardian as the film approaches its fiftieth birthday.

                    https://www.theguardian.com/film/201...ts-dream-space

                    Nick

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