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  • #16
    Originally posted by Metro1962 View Post

    McCormick most likely thinks that the theme from O.H.M.S.S is We have all the time in the World and really has no clue but makes a great write up!!
    It wouldn't surprise me. I don't wish to sound pedantic, but he's not entirely accurate either when he says the song is played over the closing credits. It must be a couple of years at least since I watched O.H.M.S.S, but I think the instrumental version of "All the time in the World" is only heard during the final scene after Diana Rigg is shot and Bond is sat in the car beside her. Once the end credits start to roll, the music switches quite suddenly to the usual Bond theme.

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    • #17
      My son will be outraged when I tell him that his personal favourite came last!

      Only last month he met Lulu and took the opportunity to praise her for producing what he (genuinely) regards as the best Bond theme song of all. She was quite taken aback, apparently - as previously mentioned on this thread, she herself regards it as one of the more dismissive offerings and she told him as much! When he went on to praise her performance ("considering you were really a pop singer") in "To Sir With Love" she positively beamed with pleasure and parted company with a smile on her face and a spring in her step, no doubt flattered that a twenty six year old should have such regard for her career. I must admit I have a soft spot for TMWTGG (the theme that is - NOT the film!). It features the ballsy, brassy clout of John Barry and appropriately leather-lunged vocals (as a singer I prefer Lulu to Dame Shirley every time) delivering one of the most pugnacious of all the 007 themes. The tongue in cheek lyrics only add to its sassy delight IMO!

      My personal fave would be a tune though, not a song. The theme to OHMSS is truly sublime.

      Two of the weakest for me feature in the article's top ten. "Nobody Does It Better" is Golden Gun in reverse (poor theme, great film). Why? well quite apart from committing the cardinal sin of burying the film title within the lyrics instead of sharing it as a title, it is far too mature and way too soppy. None of the electrifying, classic punch of, say "Thunderball" (marvellous) or "Goldfinger" (excellent), It ranks for me as easily the most overrated of all the Bond themes.

      I also cannot abide "For Your Eyes Only" (this time poor theme introduces poor film - oh dear! but at least with, in my opinion, the best incarnation of Bond himself). Sheena Easton - a singer I've never cared for - trots out a mawkish, crappy rendition of what could have been quite a strong offering with a better singer and arrangement. Here is the criminally overlooked version by Blondie, which in my opinion rips Sheena's to shreds...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3anh2SV-7s

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Tonch View Post

        Two of the weakest for me feature in the article's top ten. "Nobody Does It Better" is Golden Gun in reverse (poor theme, great film). Why? well quite apart from committing the cardinal sin of burying the film title within the lyrics instead of sharing it as a title, it is far too mature and way too soppy. None of the electrifying, classic punch of, say "Thunderball" (marvellous) or "Goldfinger" (excellent), It ranks for me as easily the most overrated of all the Bond themes.

        I also cannot abide "For Your Eyes Only" (this time poor theme introduces poor film - oh dear! but at least with, in my opinion, the best incarnation of Bond himself). Sheena Easton - a singer I've never cared for - trots out a mawkish, crappy rendition of what could have been quite a strong offering with a better singer and arrangement. Here is the criminally overlooked version by Blondie, which in my opinion rips Sheena's to shreds...

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3anh2SV-7s
        Nobody Does It Better is the best ever Bond theme imo.

        In regards to For Your Eyes Only by Blondie "The producers of this movie wanted Blondie to perform the title song. The band wrote a song titled "For Your Eyes Only", but decided to decline the offer when they discovered the producers wanted a recording of Bill conti's song instead. "





        https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082398...f_=tt_ql_trv_1











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        • #19
          Since we were invited at the start of this thread to present our own, naturally subjective, orders of preference, I thought I'd have a go just for fun.

          It didn't prove as difficult as I thought since I was able to swiftly jettison more than half of the themes on the following grounds....

          Cannot remember them at all:
          Tomorrow Never Dies
          You Know My Name (Casino Royale)
          Another Way To Die (Quantum Of Solace)
          Writing's On The Wall (Spectre)

          Next I dismissed the tediously soppy, bland (just not "Bond-ish" enough) mush:
          Nobody Does It Better (The Spy Who Loved Me)
          For Your Eyes Only
          All Time High (Octopussy)

          Quickly followed by those squawky rather tuneless noises:
          Licence To Kill
          Goldeneye
          Die Another Day

          It was getting much easier now having offloaded the above tripe. I was left with the tolerable/decent:
          From Russia With Love
          You Only Live Twice
          Moonraker

          Leaving me with a personal top ten which I would count down as:
          10 The World Is Not Enough
          9 The Living Daylights
          8 A View To A Kill
          7 Skyfall
          6 Goldfinger
          5 Thunderball
          4 Live And Let Die
          3 Diamonds Are Forever
          2 The Man With The Golden Gun
          1 On Her Majesty's Secret Service

          All of which of course excludes Dr No which never really had its own theme, although some would argue that Monty Norman's timeless signature would qualify as the original Bond theme.




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          • #20
            "Live and let die" - did McCartney really compose and arrange the orchestral pieces? And it was spoilt by "This world in which we live in", as I'm sure Miss Brahms will agree.

            My own favourite is Ms Bassey's soaring, lift the rafters, "Goldfinger".

            And as for covers? I do like Soft Cell's synth version of You Only Live Twice.

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            • Bonekicker
              Bonekicker commented
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              McCartney (including Stella) certainly did write it, with George Martin producing and arranging the orchestra. I think the line 'This ever changing world we live in' works perfectly well - although as McCartney has said, its not easy to write a song with the title (and therefore much of the lyrics) being already fixed.

              The legend is that Salzman apparently wasnt entirely aware who McCartney was (although this seems unlikely), and that McCartney was so eager that he hired a full orchestra to do the demo.

              I quite like the Guns and Roses version. And I did not know that Soft Cell had done a version of You Only Live Twice (which I have always had a soft spot for), but the tune works well electronically and as a backing track, like in Millennium, so it makes sense.

              I am surprised I couldnt find more dance versions of Bond themes - there are several of Das Boot, and with 25 plus to chose from....

            • garth
              garth commented
              Editing a comment
              Thanks for the info, Bonekicker. You'll see I have corrected my mistake regarding the 'Live and let die' lyrics in a post further down the thread.

          • #21
            Originally posted by Tonch View Post

            Leaving me with a personal top ten which I would count down as:

            1 On Her Majesty's Secret Service
            Oh dear!! Each to their own but the main theme from O.H.M.S. S. is rather bland and sounds like it's at the wrong speed as well!!

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            • #22
              Originally posted by garth View Post
              "Live and let die" ... was spoilt by "This world in which we live in"
              But I always hear this as:

              "But if this ever changing world in which we're living"

              Which is perfectly OK!

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              • #23
                Originally posted by Tonch View Post

                But I always hear this as:

                "But if this ever changing world in which we're living"

                Which is perfectly OK!
                My apologies. I got it wrong. I trusted my memory, but I had evidently misheard or misremembered.

                "But if this ever changing world in which we're living makes you give in and cry"

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                • #24
                  Originally posted by garth View Post

                  My own favourite is Ms Bassey's soaring, lift the rafters, "Goldfinger".
                  Without a moment's hesitation, my favourite, too, and the most memorable.

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                  • #25
                    Since the original list was presented as the writer's personal ranking, and everyone was invited to submit their list in order of preference, it's not clear to me exactly how criticism of his list enters into it.
                    It's a subjective exercise. Also, music styles change; case in point - From Russia With Love. In its time it was a huge hit for Matt Munro but listening to it through today's ears it doesn't have nearly the impact it had all those years ago. That doesn't make it any the less impressive - but that's just my view.

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                    • #26
                      Originally posted by Pelican View Post
                      It's a subjective exercise. Also, music styles change; case in point - From Russia With Love. In its time it was a huge hit for Matt Munro but listening to it through today's ears it doesn't have nearly the impact it had all those years ago. That doesn't make it any the less impressive - but that's just my view.
                      You're quite right, it is subjective. However in my case, the fact that I can recollect all the Bond theme tunes from the earliest to around the mid-90's would tell me these are more memorable than the songs used in the current films. Off the top of my head, I couldn't tell you a single Daniel Craig Bond tune without looking them up. I'm not necessarily criticising them, it's just that they're very forgettable tunes to me.

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                      • #27
                        Pelican, for us as human beings, everything - apart from adding two and two etc. - is a subjective exercise, including how we process colour and sound. The writer had the simple but interesting idea of ranking the Bond tunes. None of us (I believe) thought of that, but he triggered something and we had great fun revisiting and re-evaluating the themes and choosing our own favourites - and even least favourites. That is hardly destructive criticism, and I imagine the writer would be pleased rather than annoyed at this.

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                        • #28
                          FWIW I love Skyfall (movie and music!) but also have a lot of time for You Only Live Twice (I am a fan of both major Sinatras) and the main theme (what a spine-tingling moment it was when that came on during Skyfall!!!).

                          I like View To A Kill, although the 80s over-production detracted from it, and both themes from OHMSS. Goldfinger is, obvs, Bassey's best BOND, IMHO. For Your Eyes Only is pretty good.

                          Jack White can do now wrong so, for me, the worst Bone theme was Madge's Die Another Day. It's not a bad song, just an awful Bond one!

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                          • #29
                            Jack White can do now wrong so, for me, the worst Bone theme was Madge's Die Another Day. It's not a bad song, just an awful Bond one!
                            Die Another Day is an awful Bond song, and probably the worst. Actually, I dont think its a good song anyway, but truly dreadful as a Bond theme. Whats weird about the Jack White/ Aliesha Keyes effort is that not is it pretty rubbish and unsuitable, but that both are actually quite talented. I suspect that White might have been a mistake, if only because his style isnt really suitable for Bond, But Keyes can write , and its a surprise it was all such a mess.

                            Yep - Skyfall works. Which is what you want in a Bond theme.

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                            • #30
                              Originally posted by Bonekicker View Post

                              Die Another Day is an awful Bond song
                              Not surprising, given Die Another Day is an awful title. I thought it must have been generated by computer when I first heard of it.

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